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If I Was God
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RE: If I Was God
(August 26, 2011 at 10:50 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You would allow rape and deny the victim mercy? You would deny mercy to the little girl in Florida? Don't even start on big picture, you're drawing from one book, one point of view. It doesn't get much more narrow. You're gonna sit on the other end of this denying every piece of the absolutely vast body of knowledge that we have on nearly every subject touched upon in the bible, dismiss it as heresy, and then make some jibe about big pictures. Give me a break.

"You would allow rape and deny the victim mercy? You would deny mercy to the little girl in Florida?" Exactly, what if the one that engaged in that crime was able to live forever and would continue to commit said crime because of his existence? Would you take away that mans thoughts and will to do such acts or would you remove him forever? What if the rape victim helped others that have been raped, what if she in turn saved others from committing suicide because of her help?
Did you hear about that little girl starting a donation fund for people without water. Her goal was $300. About a week after her birthday(that's what she wanted for her birthday, to help people) she died in a car crash. The news of her story and death has caused people to donate. There is now over a million dollars to help people. Big picture?
What i get from the bible is "good", the nature of it and science has told me nothing about that.
Now talk about the OT out of context or in the assumption of the negative to condemn God so as to justify yourself. Go ahead.
(August 26, 2011 at 10:52 pm)Skepsis Wrote: But does anyone actually have free will if God made us knowing beforehand what we would do and what choices we would make?
Isn't that just like making a custom batch of robots that are free to do as they want, but due to foreknowledge of their programming, we already have their life planned out and charted. That isn't even truly free will. So, in essence, your God is just playing games with us if he is punishing or rewarding us in any way for actions he himself must have, as dictated by basic logic, programmed into us upon our arrival as beings.
We are perpetually playing into his hands, we can be nothing more than a toy for Him.

Law is definately not the way to come at the subject of his existance, as He can only be defined ambigiously at best in that subject.
Perhaps in his allowing suffering and hell to coexist with his loving nature?
Or better yet his all powerful nature?

If we had the resources God had, who knows what humans might do. That is, only the omniscience.

He knows of what you will do. The thing is, the actual choice and action are real and prove who the person is. God doesn't condemn you because he knows you will engage in sin but because your object will is to gain for yourself the the sin and the action will be proof. He is just, he uses proof before he condemns you. Would it be good if he took away your life and choice because what you would chose would be wrong, would you do that?
Would you say actions and influence matter or are they worthless?

Nice, he is either playing games with us or he is teaching us? Should we assume for the positive or the negative? Speculate on what makes it true or what falsifies it?
Shall we learn from suffering or relish in self pity? It seems to be a choice.
If you knew a criminal would continue to engage in crime, would you allow him to be freed knowing he would act again?
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
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If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 11, 2011 at 4:03 pm
RE: If I Was God - by searchingforanswers - August 11, 2011 at 5:30 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Rokcet Scientist - August 11, 2011 at 11:34 pm
RE: If I Was God - by searchingforanswers - August 12, 2011 at 12:12 am
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RE: If I Was God - by frankiej - August 11, 2011 at 5:39 pm
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RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 11, 2011 at 9:21 pm
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 11, 2011 at 9:23 pm
RE: If I Was God - by frankiej - August 11, 2011 at 9:26 pm
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 11, 2011 at 9:49 pm
RE: If I Was God - by twocompulsive - August 12, 2011 at 12:47 am
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 12, 2011 at 2:25 am
RE: If I Was God - by Faith No More - August 12, 2011 at 2:29 am
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 12, 2011 at 2:31 am
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 12, 2011 at 10:36 am
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 12, 2011 at 11:04 am
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 12, 2011 at 11:05 am
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 12, 2011 at 11:10 am
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 12, 2011 at 11:19 am
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 12, 2011 at 11:33 am
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 12, 2011 at 11:45 am
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 12, 2011 at 8:31 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 12, 2011 at 11:20 pm
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 13, 2011 at 3:38 am
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 12, 2011 at 11:57 am
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 12, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 12, 2011 at 3:25 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 12, 2011 at 12:25 pm
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 12, 2011 at 12:28 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Welsh cake - August 12, 2011 at 12:37 pm
RE: If I Was God - by DeistPaladin - August 12, 2011 at 1:25 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 12, 2011 at 3:40 pm
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 12, 2011 at 3:41 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 12, 2011 at 3:43 pm
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RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 12, 2011 at 3:48 pm
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 12, 2011 at 3:49 pm
RE: If I Was God - by searchingforanswers - August 12, 2011 at 10:34 pm
RE: If I Was God - by twocompulsive - August 12, 2011 at 11:25 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 14, 2011 at 8:24 pm
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 12, 2011 at 10:39 pm
RE: If I Was God - by searchingforanswers - August 12, 2011 at 11:58 pm
RE: If I Was God - by twocompulsive - August 13, 2011 at 12:07 am
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 13, 2011 at 12:17 am
RE: If I Was God - by twocompulsive - August 13, 2011 at 2:06 am
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 13, 2011 at 2:54 am
RE: If I Was God - by Violet - August 13, 2011 at 2:19 am
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 13, 2011 at 7:30 am
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 13, 2011 at 7:44 am
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 13, 2011 at 7:48 am
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 13, 2011 at 7:49 am
RE: If I Was God - by Welsh cake - August 13, 2011 at 1:18 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 13, 2011 at 2:03 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Violet - August 13, 2011 at 2:11 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Salty Amy - August 13, 2011 at 2:56 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Anymouse - August 13, 2011 at 5:23 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2011 at 10:13 pm
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 14, 2011 at 10:39 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Alfredo - August 22, 2011 at 9:51 am
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 22, 2011 at 1:14 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Welsh cake - August 22, 2011 at 4:41 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 22, 2011 at 7:29 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 23, 2011 at 12:00 am
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 25, 2011 at 8:46 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 26, 2011 at 11:44 am
RE: If I Was God - by Emanuel - August 23, 2011 at 11:45 am
RE: If I Was God - by frankiej - August 23, 2011 at 11:53 am
RE: If I Was God - by Welsh cake - August 23, 2011 at 1:41 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 23, 2011 at 2:38 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2011 at 1:48 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 26, 2011 at 8:18 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2011 at 8:29 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 26, 2011 at 8:36 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2011 at 8:46 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 26, 2011 at 8:59 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2011 at 9:01 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 26, 2011 at 9:18 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Faith No More - August 26, 2011 at 9:28 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 26, 2011 at 9:42 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Faith No More - August 26, 2011 at 10:03 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 26, 2011 at 10:37 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2011 at 9:25 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 26, 2011 at 9:55 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2011 at 9:48 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2011 at 10:01 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 26, 2011 at 10:16 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2011 at 10:21 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 26, 2011 at 10:28 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2011 at 10:32 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 26, 2011 at 10:44 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2011 at 10:38 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2011 at 10:50 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 28, 2011 at 5:15 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 28, 2011 at 6:59 pm
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 28, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RE: If I Was God - by KichigaiNeko - August 28, 2011 at 11:19 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 29, 2011 at 7:23 pm
RE: If I Was God - by KichigaiNeko - August 30, 2011 at 7:42 am
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 29, 2011 at 7:18 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Skepsis - August 26, 2011 at 10:52 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Emanuel - August 27, 2011 at 5:07 am
RE: If I Was God - by Ace Otana - August 27, 2011 at 5:14 am
RE: If I Was God - by 8BitAtheist - August 28, 2011 at 3:01 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 28, 2011 at 3:24 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 28, 2011 at 8:04 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 7:19 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 29, 2011 at 7:30 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 7:27 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 7:32 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 29, 2011 at 7:45 pm
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 29, 2011 at 7:37 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 7:47 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 29, 2011 at 8:06 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:07 pm
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - August 29, 2011 at 8:33 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Violet - August 29, 2011 at 8:18 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:23 pm
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 29, 2011 at 8:25 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Violet - August 29, 2011 at 8:25 pm
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:34 pm
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 29, 2011 at 8:39 pm
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 30, 2011 at 8:53 am
RE: If I Was God - by Faith No More - August 30, 2011 at 9:10 am
RE: If I Was God - by KichigaiNeko - August 30, 2011 at 9:10 am
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2011 at 9:07 am
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 30, 2011 at 9:10 am
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2011 at 9:11 am
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 30, 2011 at 9:14 am
RE: If I Was God - by Faith No More - August 30, 2011 at 9:15 am
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2011 at 9:20 am
RE: If I Was God - by KichigaiNeko - August 30, 2011 at 9:22 am
RE: If I Was God - by Faith No More - August 30, 2011 at 9:23 am
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2011 at 9:23 am
RE: If I Was God - by KichigaiNeko - August 30, 2011 at 9:25 am
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2011 at 9:43 am
RE: If I Was God - by thesummerqueen - August 30, 2011 at 9:47 am
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2011 at 9:51 am
RE: If I Was God - by Cinjin - August 30, 2011 at 10:47 am
RE: If I Was God - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2011 at 11:19 am
RE: If I Was God - by Alfredo - September 1, 2011 at 4:11 pm
RE: If I Was God - by KichigaiNeko - September 2, 2011 at 11:52 am
RE: If I Was God - by C Rod - September 6, 2011 at 1:38 pm
RE: If I Was God - by Welsh cake - September 2, 2011 at 12:16 pm
RE: If I Was God - by KichigaiNeko - September 2, 2011 at 12:17 pm

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