RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 8, 2018 at 3:03 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2018 at 3:04 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(February 8, 2018 at 2:50 pm)alpha male Wrote:(February 8, 2018 at 2:37 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Okay...why does god, a wholly perfect and complete entity, want love and companionship from a source separate from himself? Couldn’t god simply generate wholly satisfying feelings of love and companionship within himself?
Er, why do you assume that the desire is to receive love and companionship? Maybe the desire was to bestow those things on something separate from himself. Personally we had children because we had love to give, not because we needed to receive.
Okay. I accept that as plausible; the notion of wanting to give love to something else the way we want to have children to love. But, I can’t think of a single thing my children could do to me or anyone else, that would drive me to cause them eternal pain and suffering as punishment; to cast them away forever. That would be terrible parenting. This is where it falls apart for me.
Quote:Could you expand on that?
Quote:For this thread the important point would be that there was a time that God existed before he created this universe. So, that he knows all points of time in our universe doesn't preclude him from having desired to create the universe.
There was time before time?
Quote:Of course not, but I’m a human being, not a complete, perfect, omniscient, omnipresent god...
Quote:The Bible says that Jesus was made perfect through suffering. Contemplate that awhile.
Not exactly sure what that has to do with Huggy’s faulty analogy.
(February 8, 2018 at 2:37 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: So, god was lacking something, or was unfulfilled in some way before creating humanity? He was...lonely?
Quote:Wow, interesting how you're straining for a gotcha moment.
Huh? It’s a perfectly fair, reasonable, and earnest follow-up question to what has been said so far. All I’m asking you to do is walk me through the reasoning. Why are you putting up such a stink?
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