(February 10, 2018 at 10:43 pm)SteveII Wrote:(February 10, 2018 at 10:54 am)polymath257 Wrote: Once again, there is no *logical* problem with an infinite regress. Mathematics deals with the set of negative integers all the time. It isn't a logical problem. This is one example of the problems with ancient philosophy: we have learned a LOT about how to deal with infinities over the last 150 years or so. Yes, they don't act the same way as finite things do. But that isn't a contradiction.
You are imagining a problem (counting from negative infinity) where there is none. At each point, the 'counting' has been going on forever. So? The only problem with that is that there is no start. And that is not a *logical* problem. We are here and the clock has always been ticking.
This is getting tiring.
You don't know the half of it.
Theist: yada yada yada but stuff does exist, therefore God. QED
That is what is really tiring. You guys like to muse about grandly speculative questions. Then, when no one can give you an answer you like as much as "therefore God did it because God has been defined as that which can do anything", you shit on our chess board, knock the pieces every which way and crow about your great victory. It's almost as if you don't realize that "god did it" -where what He is and how He did it are declared unknowable- amounts to "it's a mystery" pretty much the same as what we have beyond what science reveals so far. Fortunately with science, revelation is ongoing so stay tuned.
