(February 19, 2018 at 12:37 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote:"people are going to be people" would lead to MORE gun deaths. I had to train recruits out of bad habits they thought were "proper safety procedures".(February 19, 2018 at 11:59 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Except for the fact, and it is a fact, that I am not defending anyone. I am urging people to stop the goddamned name-calling and vituperation, set their personal feelings aside, and get to work with forward steps.Well the problem is that I didn't demonized people , I just urged them to come with some actual points to the conversation rather than pointing out the obvious. It is not about my feelings , it is about peoplr using concepts as violence and " people are going to be people" to counter the ideea of stricter gun laws , I'm sorry that I can't see how this kind of things help .
It's a lot harder than virtue-signalling, but on the other hand it at least stands a chance of working. Demonizing those who disagree with you, not so much.
