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Roko's Basilisk (Read Warning In Post First)
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RE: Roko's Basilisk (Read Warning In Post First)
(February 20, 2018 at 6:49 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: I see your point about doppelgangers in and of itself, but how does it relate to the basilisk problem?

I'm assuming, of course, that we're not in one of these simulated worlds already built by the Basilisk, and that I've grasped the problem well enough to debate it properly.

From the same link in the OP:

Quote:Thus this is not necessarily a straightforward "serve the AI or you will go to hell" — the AI and the person punished need have no causal interaction, and the punished individual may have died decades or centuries earlier. Instead, the AI could punish a simulation of the person, which it would construct by deduction from first principles. However, to do this accurately would require it be able to gather an incredible amount of data, which would no longer exist, and could not be reconstructed without reversing entropy.

Bolded mine.

Also, of relevance is this:

Quote:Simulations of you are also you

LessWrong holds that the human mind is implemented entirely as patterns of information in physical matter, and that those patterns could, in principle, be run elsewhere and constitute a person that feels they are you, like running a computer program with all its data on a different PC; this is held to be both a meaningful concept and physically possible.

This is not unduly strange (the concept follows from materialism, though feasibility is another matter), but Yudkowsky further holds that you should feel that another instance of you is not a separate person very like you — an instant twin, but immediately diverging — but actually the same you, since no particular instance is distinguishable as "the original." You should behave and feel concerning this copy as you do about your very own favourite self, the thing that intuitively satisfies the concept "you". One instance is a computation, a process that executes "you", not an object that contains, and is, the only "true" "you".[29]

This conception of identity appears to have originated on the Extropians mailing list, which Yudkowsky frequented, in the 1990s, in discussions of continuity of identity in a world where minds could be duplicated.[30]

It may be helpful to regard holding this view as, in principle, an arbitrary choice, in situations like this — but a choice which would give other beings with the power to create copies of you considerable power over you. Many of those adversely affected by the basilisk idea do seem to hold this conception of identity.
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Roko's Basilisk (Read Warning In Post First) - by Grandizer - February 20, 2018 at 5:01 pm
RE: Roko's Basilisk (Read Warning In Post First) - by Sal - February 20, 2018 at 6:25 pm
RE: Roko's Basilisk (Read Warning In Post First) - by Grandizer - February 20, 2018 at 8:34 pm
RE: Roko's Basilisk (Read Warning In Post First) - by Rev. Rye - February 20, 2018 at 11:00 pm
RE: Roko's Basilisk (Read Warning In Post First) - by Grandizer - February 20, 2018 at 11:09 pm
RE: Roko's Basilisk (Read Warning In Post First) - by Aoi Magi - February 20, 2018 at 11:14 pm
RE: Roko's Basilisk (Read Warning In Post First) - by Grandizer - February 20, 2018 at 11:16 pm
RE: Roko's Basilisk (Read Warning In Post First) - by Rev. Rye - February 20, 2018 at 11:25 pm

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