RE: Effective Dialog?
February 21, 2018 at 8:27 am
(This post was last modified: February 21, 2018 at 8:32 am by RoadRunner79.)
(February 21, 2018 at 6:43 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Lol. Some people sure seem to think so. Same with pointing out logical fallacies, it's actually just a sneaky way of people trying to feel smug and be smarter than the other person, not a dialog tool at all.
It also is something that has sprung almost entirely from the internet, internet forum people seem to think that philosophy and debate consists the of memorizing a list of logical fallacies and then pointing them out as frequently as possible and declaring victory, preferably with a really snarky meme.
I can certainly see where you are coming from, but also think that part of a good dialogue can be to point out where someone is thinking wrongly. And hopefully it should add to the dialogue by either acknowledging or addressing the perceived mistake. I do agree with your assessment, that it is not about pointing out every fallacy, and declaring gotcha! Everyone makes mistakes, and it's not really about one argument, but the idea.
Here is one yinz might enjoy from the Babylon Bee.
Quote:WASHINGTON, D.C.—During a budgetary discussion Friday, Republican lawmakers announced a plan to pretend to be fiscally conservative again if a Democrat takes office again in 2020 or 2024.
The GOP said it would begin to decry deficit spending and the $20 trillion debt in order to win votes as soon as political power swung back to the opposing party.
“The second a Democrat is back in the White House, we will once again start yelling about fiscal responsibility,” Speaker Paul Ryan said in an address to the House of Representatives Friday. “For now, we will continue to vote for unsustainable and irresponsible budgets that your children’s children’s children will pay for for centuries to come.”
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther


