(February 27, 2018 at 10:43 am)Hammy Wrote: The definition is the premise. I thought we are debating what part of the definition means religious beliefs aren't considered a psychiatric delusion. We are already accepting the definition as it is the premise.
Are you questioning what part of the definition means religious beliefs aren't considered a psychiatric definition or are you questioning whether you agree with the definition or think certain parts of it are unnecessary? You have to be clear with your question otherwise your definition will be so flexible and equivocal that you will flip back and forth too much to be addressing anything coherent.
No, I was saying that the DSM-5 should redefine delusion to just "Any belief held despite incontrovertible evidence or proof against it". That is the dictionary definition of "delusion". Then it would include religious beliefs. It would also include mathematical delusions: Believing that the square of a real number can be negative ought to be considered a delusion.