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The Myth of the Persecuted Church
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RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church
Celsus, a neo-platonist philosopher in the late second century AD said:


Quote:"Many of the ideas of the christians have been expressed better-- and earlier-- by the greeks, who were however modest enough to refrain from saying that their ideas came from a god or a son of god. The ancients in their wisdom revealed certain truths to those able to understand: Plato, son of Ariston, points to the truth about the highest good when he says that it cannot be expressed in words, but rather comes from familiarity-- like a flash frpm the blue, imprinting itself upon the soul... But Plato, having said this, does not go on to record some myth to make his point (as do so many others), nor does he silence the inquirer who questions some of the truths he professes; Plato does not ask people to stop questioning, or to accept that god id like such and such...Rather, he tells us where his doctrines come from; there is, in short, a history to what he says, and he is happy to point to the sources of his knowledge, instead of asking us to believe that he speaks on his own authority..."

Then he went on to deal specifically with the issue at hand:

Quote:"Not only do they misunderstand the words of the philosophers; they even stoop to assigning words of the philosophers to their Jesus. For example, we are told that Jesus judged the rich with the saying 'It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of god.' Yet we know that Plato expressed this very idea in a purer form when he said, 'It is impossible for an exceptionally good man to be exceptionally rich.'* Is one utterance more inspired than the other?"

Jesus the plagiarizer!
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The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Minimalist - February 20, 2018 at 7:04 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Chad32 - February 20, 2018 at 7:19 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by CapnAwesome - February 22, 2018 at 10:57 am
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by vorlon13 - February 22, 2018 at 12:38 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by vulcanlogician - February 20, 2018 at 7:25 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Amarok - February 20, 2018 at 9:05 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by vorlon13 - February 20, 2018 at 7:33 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Silver - February 20, 2018 at 7:36 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Minimalist - February 20, 2018 at 7:36 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by vulcanlogician - February 20, 2018 at 8:25 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Pat Mustard - February 21, 2018 at 2:27 am
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 20, 2018 at 7:47 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by vulcanlogician - February 20, 2018 at 9:17 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Amarok - February 21, 2018 at 9:13 am
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Fireball - February 20, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Minimalist - February 20, 2018 at 11:38 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by chimp3 - February 21, 2018 at 2:08 am
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Minimalist - February 21, 2018 at 2:20 am
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by chimp3 - February 21, 2018 at 2:30 am
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Minimalist - February 21, 2018 at 1:12 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by vorlon13 - February 21, 2018 at 1:16 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Minimalist - February 21, 2018 at 1:22 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Amarok - February 21, 2018 at 1:30 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Minimalist - February 21, 2018 at 1:31 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Minimalist - February 21, 2018 at 9:14 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by vulcanlogician - February 22, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Chad32 - February 22, 2018 at 11:23 am
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by CapnAwesome - February 22, 2018 at 5:21 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Minimalist - February 22, 2018 at 12:23 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Chad32 - February 22, 2018 at 5:24 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Minimalist - February 24, 2018 at 12:27 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by vulcanlogician - February 24, 2018 at 3:00 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2018 at 12:14 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Chad32 - February 24, 2018 at 2:53 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Minimalist - February 24, 2018 at 4:09 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by brewer - February 25, 2018 at 10:29 am
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2018 at 2:17 am
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by vulcanlogician - February 28, 2018 at 9:22 pm
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by robvalue - February 28, 2018 at 2:03 am
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by The Grand Nudger - February 28, 2018 at 7:41 am
RE: The Myth of the Persecuted Church - by Minimalist - March 1, 2018 at 12:41 am

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