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Potter to the clay
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RE: Potter to the clay
(August 29, 2011 at 4:32 pm)searchingforanswers Wrote: In my apologetic class we are reading te book crazy love by francis chan. It sucks ass. But tommorow we are gonna discuss it. Now chan ususes the passage in the bible which says it is absurd for clay to tell the potter how to shape it. He compares this to our relationship with god saying we have no right to question him an he is free to do as he pleases. Now lets just suppose for a minute this god does exist, doea he truly have the right to treat humans as he sees fit? In my opnion i dont think so. Just because human are capable of feeling and thinking-something clay lacks. However, i havent thought about this in depth. So what are your opnions? Would a divine creator have the authority to do whatever he wanted with his creation? Is it absurd for a creation to question their maker? Again im not saying i believe in a creator i just know this discussion will come up and wanted to see the forums opinion. Thanks.

That's a good question. I believe that God views our lives in two ways; without his guidance we go to destruction, with his guidance we go to life. If I didn't believe that Jesus Christ was good, then I wouldn't want him to control me, but I feel he is like a parent to me, and I know that my parents would never place me in harms way, unless something is going on that I can't understand yet. When I was a kid I thought my mother was evil because no matter how much I called for her, she wouldn't help me get away from the doctor, while they gave me my shots. I fought, literally fought them, but later I learned that I needed those shots, they were going to help me survive diseases that could kill me. That's how I view what God does in my life.
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6
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Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - August 29, 2011 at 4:32 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 4:34 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Violet - August 29, 2011 at 8:29 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - August 29, 2011 at 8:19 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:20 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Epimethean - September 17, 2011 at 1:52 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - August 29, 2011 at 8:23 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:25 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - August 29, 2011 at 8:27 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:28 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:30 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Violet - August 29, 2011 at 8:31 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - August 29, 2011 at 8:30 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:30 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:37 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - August 29, 2011 at 8:38 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:42 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by C Rod - August 29, 2011 at 8:48 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:50 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by C Rod - August 29, 2011 at 8:56 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:58 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Minimalist - August 29, 2011 at 9:00 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Justtristo - August 30, 2011 at 4:28 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - August 30, 2011 at 1:38 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Minimalist - August 30, 2011 at 12:33 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by salty - August 30, 2011 at 1:21 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ace Otana - August 30, 2011 at 1:53 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Minimalist - August 30, 2011 at 1:53 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by salty - August 30, 2011 at 4:15 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2011 at 4:39 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - August 30, 2011 at 4:51 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by salty - September 1, 2011 at 5:17 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Greatest I am - September 1, 2011 at 2:01 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 1, 2011 at 5:21 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by salty - September 2, 2011 at 5:09 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 2, 2011 at 6:11 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - September 1, 2011 at 5:22 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ace Otana - September 2, 2011 at 5:42 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by salty - September 2, 2011 at 9:10 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ace Otana - September 2, 2011 at 9:47 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by salty - September 2, 2011 at 3:34 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ace Otana - September 2, 2011 at 3:52 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by KichigaiNeko - September 2, 2011 at 9:14 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - September 2, 2011 at 9:15 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by KichigaiNeko - September 2, 2011 at 9:19 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ryft - September 4, 2011 at 10:08 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - September 4, 2011 at 11:20 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ryft - September 5, 2011 at 12:49 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by ElDinero - September 5, 2011 at 7:50 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by Minimalist - September 5, 2011 at 2:07 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 5, 2011 at 7:57 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - September 5, 2011 at 8:30 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ryft - September 5, 2011 at 1:58 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 5, 2011 at 2:21 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ryft - September 5, 2011 at 2:52 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - September 5, 2011 at 2:00 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by C Rod - September 6, 2011 at 1:59 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 5, 2011 at 2:57 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - September 5, 2011 at 2:59 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - September 6, 2011 at 2:01 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by C Rod - September 13, 2011 at 1:16 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 13, 2011 at 1:20 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Darwinian - September 13, 2011 at 1:29 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by C Rod - September 13, 2011 at 1:39 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 6, 2011 at 2:02 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by downbeatplumb - September 6, 2011 at 2:13 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Darwinian - September 13, 2011 at 1:46 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by C Rod - September 13, 2011 at 1:50 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by downbeatplumb - September 13, 2011 at 1:50 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Darwinian - September 13, 2011 at 1:53 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by downbeatplumb - September 13, 2011 at 1:58 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Darwinian - September 13, 2011 at 2:02 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by downbeatplumb - September 13, 2011 at 2:39 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 13, 2011 at 2:41 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by downbeatplumb - September 13, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by KichigaiNeko - September 14, 2011 at 5:20 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by lucent - September 16, 2011 at 10:55 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 17, 2011 at 9:16 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - September 16, 2011 at 11:07 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by lucent - September 17, 2011 at 2:21 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by MilesTailsPrower - September 17, 2011 at 12:05 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by FutureAndAHope - September 17, 2011 at 4:12 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by BloodyHeretic - September 17, 2011 at 1:25 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - September 17, 2011 at 2:02 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by BloodyHeretic - September 17, 2011 at 2:10 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 7:48 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by BloodyHeretic - September 18, 2011 at 8:26 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 7:12 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Zen Badger - September 18, 2011 at 8:48 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by Darwinian - September 18, 2011 at 7:57 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 18, 2011 at 3:17 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Epimethean - September 18, 2011 at 6:01 pm

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