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Ethnographic Research (Help please!)
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!)
(March 2, 2018 at 5:34 pm)stretch3172 Wrote:
(March 2, 2018 at 4:56 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Existed before the universe.  Created billions upon billions of galaxies.  Our little insignificant solar system formed about 4.571 billion years ago, give or take a millienia or two.  After 4,497,500,000 years, about 2.5 million years ago, a bunch of bipedal primates starting making stone tools, so - this creature thought that it would watch a while?  After another 4,497,490,000 years - about 10 thousand years ago, give or take a few, a little Semitic tribe starting making up stories about their war god.  Did it decide they were talking about it and start taking over their brain processes?  They wrote down tall tales about it and claimed god spoke to them.  
   This brings up hundreds of questions, such as why these "inspired" works include events that clearly never happened, and how the creator of billions of galaxies wouldn't "inspire" those taking his dictation to say what a star actually is.  But my biggest question is always "if this omnipotent, omniscient creature can communicate via fantasy, then why not communicate with ALL humans?  Why wait 2,490,000 years to say hello, and why say hello to a tiny tribe living in an area smaller than Lake Michigan?  If it wanted to be known and worshiped, (another ridiculous attribute) then it would be beyond simple for it to communicate with every primate on the planet.  That would have avoided a LOT of bloodshed, which any omniscient creature would know would happen before it set off the Big Bang.We have thousands of years of history of humans killing each other over which imaginary friend is the coolest, and the most powerful creature in the cosmos, who numbers the hair on our heads and knows our every thought, is incapable of stopping it.  Incapable of saying "stop killing each other".  Incapable of stopping its priests and preachers from raping kids in its own house.  And there is not one shred of evidence for its existence to be found, anywhere.
Several of your questions are based on ill-conceived presuppositions. For one, even according to the basic evolutionary narrative, the human line did not even begin to evolve separately from the other great apes until about 4.4 million years ago (granted its been awhile since my last anthropology class, but I know that no one believes protohumans were here to understand "hello" 2 billion years ago). That said, my answer to your question is that God has communicated with all humans by revealing Himself through natural creation, conscience, morality, and human reason. This is what Christians call "general revelation." By contrast, "special revelation" is God's more direct means of communicating with humanity, which takes place through His Word. Your question itself presupposes that you have the right to dictate how God should communicate, which is false. General revelation is common to all people, but only those who respond to it and honestly seek after God can come to know and understand Him.

"general revelation"   :Facepalm   Revealing himself through natural creation.  Which is completely indistinguishable from ignorant people looking around and trying to explain where the sun went at night.  This type of curiosity REVEALED more than 5000 different deities.  None of which have been proven to exist.  Most, like Ra and Ahura-Mazda, have died out and are now considered myth.  And your imaginary friend is right there with Odin and Osiris, for me.

I don't "have the right to dictate how God should communicate" but I have the right to decide for myself what I can believe.  And I believe that if a being is omnipotent and omniscient, and wants the attention of humans, then it should be extremely easy for it to prove it exists.  Particularly in an era where an 8-year-old can create a viral video that can travel around the globe.  And I won't believe it exists until it proves it, all by itself.  No silly books of ridiculous fables, no looking at nature and saying "gee isn't that pretty there must be a god", and "gee I don't understand comets, there must be a god".  Every proof every theist posts here is completely indistinguishable from the same kind of fantasy included in a Spiderman comic.

Oh, and if your sky-daddy actually IS omniscient, and actually did set off the Big Bang (lol) and did tweak the evolution of the human race in some way, then it's an evil monster that nobody could possibly ever worship.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein



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Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by stretch3172 - February 28, 2018 at 11:41 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by LadyForCamus - February 28, 2018 at 11:43 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Jenny A - February 28, 2018 at 11:45 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by stretch3172 - February 28, 2018 at 11:48 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Jenny A - March 1, 2018 at 1:36 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by rskovride - March 1, 2018 at 11:54 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Aoi Magi - February 28, 2018 at 11:46 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by J a c k - February 28, 2018 at 11:47 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by SteelCurtain - February 28, 2018 at 11:48 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Jenny A - February 28, 2018 at 11:52 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by chimp3 - February 28, 2018 at 11:59 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by stretch3172 - March 1, 2018 at 12:02 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by chimp3 - March 1, 2018 at 12:09 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by stretch3172 - March 1, 2018 at 12:18 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by chimp3 - March 1, 2018 at 12:20 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Aoi Magi - March 1, 2018 at 12:20 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by stretch3172 - March 1, 2018 at 12:25 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by chimp3 - March 1, 2018 at 12:41 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by stretch3172 - March 1, 2018 at 12:46 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by chimp3 - March 1, 2018 at 12:52 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by stretch3172 - March 1, 2018 at 12:56 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Minimalist - March 1, 2018 at 12:58 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Grandizer - March 1, 2018 at 1:01 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by chimp3 - March 1, 2018 at 1:03 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by rskovride - March 1, 2018 at 1:08 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Grandizer - March 1, 2018 at 1:20 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Grandizer - March 1, 2018 at 1:31 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by J a c k - March 1, 2018 at 1:37 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by rskovride - March 1, 2018 at 1:41 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Jenny A - March 1, 2018 at 1:57 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Jenny A - March 1, 2018 at 2:07 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Grandizer - March 1, 2018 at 2:04 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Grandizer - March 1, 2018 at 2:10 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by J a c k - March 1, 2018 at 2:06 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Jenny A - March 1, 2018 at 2:34 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Jenny A - March 1, 2018 at 2:56 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by DLJ - March 1, 2018 at 5:12 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by robvalue - March 1, 2018 at 6:27 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by stretch3172 - March 1, 2018 at 11:52 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by DLJ - March 1, 2018 at 1:03 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by stretch3172 - March 1, 2018 at 11:54 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by brewer - March 1, 2018 at 12:27 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by rskovride - March 1, 2018 at 12:54 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by rskovride - March 1, 2018 at 1:27 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by stretch3172 - March 1, 2018 at 12:58 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by brewer - March 1, 2018 at 3:47 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by brewer - March 1, 2018 at 7:25 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by brewer - March 1, 2018 at 7:28 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by DLJ - March 1, 2018 at 7:32 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by No_God - March 1, 2018 at 8:30 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by robvalue - March 1, 2018 at 8:55 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by brewer - March 1, 2018 at 11:06 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by drfuzzy - March 1, 2018 at 1:51 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by drfuzzy - March 1, 2018 at 4:02 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Jenny A - March 1, 2018 at 4:57 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by robvalue - March 2, 2018 at 1:14 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by shadow - March 2, 2018 at 8:45 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Whateverist - March 2, 2018 at 11:39 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Jenny A - March 2, 2018 at 2:47 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by LastPoet - March 2, 2018 at 2:50 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by brewer - March 2, 2018 at 4:07 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by brewer - March 2, 2018 at 5:35 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Succubus - March 2, 2018 at 4:17 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by drfuzzy - March 2, 2018 at 4:56 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by drfuzzy - March 2, 2018 at 6:24 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Jenny A - March 2, 2018 at 6:40 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by brewer - March 2, 2018 at 5:50 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by brewer - March 2, 2018 at 5:56 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by brewer - March 2, 2018 at 6:32 pm
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by stretch3172 - March 3, 2018 at 12:27 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by robvalue - March 3, 2018 at 12:02 am
RE: Ethnographic Research (Help please!) - by Losty - March 3, 2018 at 3:15 am

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