(March 7, 2018 at 4:49 am)Little Rik Wrote:(March 7, 2018 at 4:34 am)orthodox-man Wrote: guys, I have read some of the Japanese accounts, they are very similar to Christian ones, but usually consist of no deities. I also read a search for Muslim NDEs by Kreps, where he collects a few, but even he says he would have expected many meetings with Muhammad in these NDEs as people report dreams with him or visions of him, so again, I don't get why they cannot hallucinate him. How can you guys be so confident these NDEs are not real?
Simple.
If atheists would admit that NDEs are real the atheist chariot would collapse and disintegrate in no time.
Sooner or later it will collapse anyway but the longer it keep on the road the longer the fantasy keep alive.
NDE's are real experiences.... But still meaningless experiences. People can imagine all sorts of strange stuff under the influence of medication, when you have been conditioned to see certain things it's not surprising that some people see certain things, couple that with a large dose of wishful thinking and Bob's your uncle Fanny's your aunt.
