RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 9, 2018 at 10:36 am
(March 9, 2018 at 10:24 am)Huggy74 Wrote:(March 9, 2018 at 10:03 am)Mathilda Wrote: Sure. But to do so I need you to explain how your hypothetical being created nature.
Are you saying that your god is sub-atomic in size? How did it then create a universe?
Common atheist tactic, when in doubt DEFLECT!
You clearly stated that according to "the second law of thermodynamics meaning that a god cannot be eternal.", My question to you is, if that is true then how can a photon be eternal?
Typical theistic use of false equivalence.
Gods and photons are not equivalent.
Photons do not display intelligence. Gods are always described as being intelligent beings. Photons do not change. Intelligence require change over time.
And as I posted earlier on in this thread
(March 8, 2018 at 10:49 am)Mathilda Wrote: Every example we have of natural intelligence is a self-organising system that functions because of the laws of thermodynamics. Every example we have of natural intelligence is embodied in a physical environment which can be sensed and acted within. We have good reason to believe that every form of natural intelligence can ultimately be explained in terms of thermodynamics.
If you want to assert that natural intelligence exists in any other form (i.e. not AI) then give an example, evidence and at the very least a hypothesis on how it might function.
So if your god is intelligent (i.e. a being) then all the evidence is that it must also be subject to the laws of thermodynamics and therefore not eternal.
Give me one single example of intelligence that is not subject to the laws of thermodynamics.
