RE: Evolution
March 10, 2018 at 4:11 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2018 at 4:13 pm by Angrboda.)
(March 10, 2018 at 3:34 pm)Banned Wrote:(March 10, 2018 at 3:14 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: This has fuckall to do with the point I was making. Because you can't answer the objection, you change the subject. Fuckwit. Answer the point or don't.
That's ok, it would be rare for someone to know the answer about magnetism.
The point would have been that there is a cause to it, which isn't self organising or even self existent.
(March 10, 2018 at 6:11 am)Mathilda Wrote:(March 9, 2018 at 4:17 pm)He lives Wrote: Do you have another possibility for abiogenesis? I only know of two, intelligent design or happenstance.
Self-organisation.
The original point was that there is a third alternative that is neither intelligent design nor randomness. Of course self-organizing systems make use of causes. Causes are ordered patterns of behavior, the exact opposite of randomness. And self-organization bootstraps the order inherent in natural causes to create ordered systems out of disordered matter. No intelligence needed. Your response was that self-organizing processes do not exist. Pointing out that self-organized systems make use of natural causes doesn't in any way answer Mathilda's point that the order resulting from self-organization is neither intelligent design nor happenstance. Or are you going to simply beg the question by asserting that order exists because God exists? If so, why bother with the claim that you have evidence that things are intelligently designed? If you're just going to assert that without evidence, then you rightly deserve to fuck off.