RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 11, 2018 at 9:24 am
(March 11, 2018 at 9:03 am)Mathilda Wrote:(March 11, 2018 at 9:01 am)SteveII Wrote: I responded to her demand of giving an example of some intelligence that was not subject to the law of thermodynamics.
No you did not. You gave no example of an intelligence that is not subject to the law of thermodynamics.
I am still waiting for an example. You know, an example that actually exists in reality.
1. Since all of our observations are within the universe and everything in the universe is subject the its laws (including thermodynamics), your statement is logically the same as: "all observations of intelligence are within the universe". Stop there. Do you understand that?
2. Since God, if he exists or not, by definition, is not made up of stuff in the universe, he is not subject to the laws of physics. He exists apart from the universe. Stop there. Do you understand that? There is no controversy here. If you disagree with this, you disagree with millenniums-old definitions (not me).
3. Therefore, any use of the laws of physics to disprove God are logically invalid. This is an airtight conclusion from the above.
I am not going to respond unless you address these points.