Evolution

[Little Rik]

When the disease become chronic there is nothing you can do granddad.  
This life is gone for you.  
You have only to hope that in the next life you will not screw that up once again like you did with this one.  

One little tip however provide you leave the bottle alone.  
Learn what evolution is all about from LR.
This can help you in the next life immensely.  

Hey LR. What karma are you accumulating for hurling all of these insults and invective? By now, it seems to be an awful lot. Yet somehow, you seem unconcerned that you are building up a karmic debt of epic proportions. If you believed what you claim you would not be doing so (or would be stupid for doing so). Seems to me that you don't believe what you claim, else you wouldn't be hurling such evil at people. 

And it is no use resorting to the "they did it too" schoolyard argument. Atheists can insult you all they like, they don't believe what you do so it doesn't matter to them. Even christians and muslims can hurl as much abuse at you as they wish since, in their system of belief neither karma nor reincarnation exist anyway. 

But to you, karma and reincarnation are real and you will have to pay for every scurrilous comment you have made here and wherever else you have done such. Are you willing to pay that much karmic debt?

That is interesting Aba.
Atheists can talk crap as much as they like because there is no karma.
What a smart-brilliant idea Aba you gave me.
Right now I become atheist so karma will not affect me at all.
Gee, I never thought about that Aba.      

Ok, now let us be serious and answer your question.

Obviously you haven't got a clue what karma is all about.
Suppose a policeman say...........that guy driving too fast or driving under the influence of "something" will get killed for sure.
Does the policeman pick up any karma for saying that?
Of course not.
Karma is wishing harm to other people not predicting an obvious result.

The same apply to me.
Why should I build karma for saying the obvious?
I never ever wish any harm to those two guys that said that my mother is  whore.
All I did is to state the obvious.
Anyone engaged in talking very very dirty obviously will lose the awareness in consciousness and in the next life obviously they will not deserve a human body anymore.  

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When the disease become chronic there is nothing you can do granddad.  
This life is gone for you.  
You have only to hope that in the next life you will not screw that up once again like you did with this one.  

One little tip however provide you leave the bottle alone.  
Learn what evolution is all about from LR.
This can help you in the next life immensely.  

Rik, aren't you yogis supposed to be at peace with the world and other people? 

Doesn't the Bhagavad Gita say that even disbelievers worship Brahman, but in an indirect way?

Why do you need everyone to agree with your beliefs?

Focus on the third eye, man. 

My previous post to Aba answer your question as well.
Have a very lovely day brother VL.  

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More reasons to doubt that NDEs are evidence for karma and reincarnation.

According to IANDS, there are some commonalities to different people's NDEs, even though each NDE is unique.  One such commonality is the reasons given for returning to life rather than continuing on into the unknown.  According to IANDS, "A reluctance to return to the earthplane, but invariably realizing either their job on earth is not finished or a mission must yet be accomplished before they can return to stay."  Nothing to do with Karma or reincarnation.  The testimony that NDErs give is that they feel that they had unfinished business back in their life.

Another common theme which contradicts the notion of karma is that NDErs often see deceased loved ones during their NDE.  Again according to IANDS, a common theme is, "Encounter with deceased loved ones, possibly sacred figures (the Judges, Jesus, a saint) or unrecognized beings, with whom communication is mind-to-mind; these figures may seem consoling, loving, or terrifying."  Now if people are seeing deceased loved ones, obviously those loved ones haven't been reincarnated, otherwise they wouldn't be still deceased.   Moreover the tendency to see Jesus in an NDE, which is quite common, would indicate that the Christian conception of life after death is the correct one, and Jesus did not teach karma and reincarnation, he taught that people would go on to live eternally in heaven or hell after death.  Nothing about reincarnation into a life in an earthbound existence.

So contrary to your assertion that the theme of being sent back has to do with karma and reincarnation, actual people who have had NDEs tell a different story.  You have no evidence from the NDEs themselves or the people who had them that their being sent back had to do with karma and reincarnation.  That's simply a conclusion that you added onto the actual evidence for no other reason than that it's something you want to believe.  Your wanting to believe in karma and reincarnation is not evidence that these NDE themes indicate karma and reincarnation, only that you want them to mean that.  The evidence says that being sent back has an entirely different meaning for actual people who have had an NDE and it isn't karma and reincarnation.

So once again the evidence is against you, and the only thing you have in support of your view is your dogmatic belief that karma and reincarnation are real.  But your beliefs aren't themselves evidence, and evidence is what you need to demonstrate your case.

Your confusion is almost total yog.

Being sent back into their body simply means that that particular stage in that particular life is not over yet.
However that does not means that more stages and lives are waiting for that person later on.
It is like when you were at the primary class 1.
Once that stage is completed you would go to the next stage or class 2. (which i doubt you ever completed)

Does IANDS say the opposite?
Of course it doesn't but you automatically deduced something else.      
Now to the other point.
Does really means that to go to heaven after the physical death means stay there for ever?
Of course not in all cases.
Everybody after their physical death go to see God.
Even plants and insects and even rapists and murderers.
Where else would they go?
The non physical dimension is one for all but of course every single being has got a different degree of awareness in consciousness according to their evolutionary stage so obviously those who reach the top of evolution will stay with God and be part of God for ever but those who haven't reach that stage yet they will have to be reincarnated again and again until they reach the sublime stage of human emancipation.

Evidence of all this?
Personally speaking I find the evidence by evolving my consciousness through yoga practices but for you NDEs should be the clear evidence because NDEs are behind contradiction.