(March 18, 2018 at 9:54 pm)Hammy Wrote:(March 18, 2018 at 1:35 pm)FFaith Wrote: Are you really judging people based on what sexual organs they are attracted to? Sounds like bigotry to me. Not ok when theists do it, but it's perfectly fine for you I guess.
You didn't understand my post did you?
(March 18, 2018 at 1:46 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Not being attracted to trans people is not bigoted . THAT IS ABSURD
That's not what I said though.
I said someone who *is* attracted to a transperson *because* they think they're cis... who then discovers the person is in fact trans and suddenly acts all turned off and disgusted... is bigoted. Because they're lying to themselves. If they're attracted, they're attracted.
(March 18, 2018 at 1:57 pm)Aegon Wrote: He said the opposite of that?
Glad someone understands. Makes me wanna keep talking.
(March 18, 2018 at 2:22 pm)FFaith Wrote: No. The opposite of that would be that it's bigoted to judge people based on what sexual organs they are attracted to. He posted that it's bigoted (or transphobic) to judge people (in terms of sexual interest) based on what sexual organs they have.
I'm not talking about sexual organs. I'm talking about someone being sexually attracted to a person and then suddenly pretending they're no longer attracted once they discover that they were born different to how they are now.
Who the fuck is attracted to organs? Penises and vaginas that aren't attached to people is just playing with sex toys. Hereosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality and pansexuality is all about being attracted to PEOPLE.
It's not about whether someone was genetically born with a specific set of genitals. It's about whether you're attracted to a person or not. And if you are.... you are.
(March 18, 2018 at 3:10 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Yeah i dont think its fair to say anyone is a bigot for not being attracted to someone of the same sex, even if they are trans.
I agree. And I'm not saying that.
I'm talking about people who ARE initially attracted and then retroactively change their mind and pretend not to be due to a phobia once they discover irrelevant info.
No, I think it's fine to not be attracted to someone anymore once you find out they are biologically male/female and you're not attracted to that sex.
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