(September 1, 2011 at 11:02 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Are you suggesting that she is NOT Fascist in many ways?
In many ways? Sure, especially with her Indoctrination and "Family values", but in total she's barely more of a fascist than half the people Obama has appointed to offices of power, like Bernanke with his secret multi-billion dollar loans to massive financial institutions or Janet Napolitano with her famous "If you see something, say something" authoritarian crackdown and the rampant TSA. Hell, even Obama ticks many of these "Fascist" boxes, a prime example being his approval of the imprisonment without trial of Bradley Manning, mandating people do business with private entities, his nation building and his usurping of power - And then there is Hillary "Lucifer" Clinton with her ratification of the cybercrimes convention that makes on-line racism and xenophobia a punishable offence.
They all check a few of the "fascist" tick boxes, but as a whole, none of them are. To be a fascist means more than being similar to a few of the positions, as the Italian Fascists of the 1920's described it themselves;
wikipedia Wrote:"Fascism is anti-anarchist, anti-communist, anti-conservative, anti-democratic, anti-individualist, anti-liberal, anti-parliamentary, anti-bourgeois and anti-proletarian It entails a distinctive type of anti-capitalism and is typically, with a few exceptions, anti-clerical. It rejects egalitarianism, materialism, and rationalism in favour of action, discipline, hierarchy, spirit and will."
Seeing as the likes of Bachman are "conservative, democratic and capitalist" while Obama is "liberal, democratic and egalitarian" or Ron Paul is "conservative, individualist, democratic and capitalist" they all immediately fail any distinctive definition of Fascism. As far as being "Anti-communist, anti-liberal, disciplinary, anti-rationalism and hierarchical" Bachman meet some criteria while Obama being "Anti-individualist, hierarchical, pro-military, disciplinary, anti-anarchist" also checks some of the boxes but neither of them fulfil the complete description of fascism.
And in terms of economics, Obama is more "fascist" than either Bachman or Paul;
wikipedia Wrote:Fascists present their ideology as that of an economically trans-class movement that promotes resolving economic class conflict to secure national solidarity. They support a regulated, multi-class, integrated national economic system.
Quote:until now, only 2 people have compained about it. You, obviously agreeing with manythings I have posted, are trying to find a happy playing field.
Because it's turned into little more than flamebaiting, that's why he's got a problem with it.
And honestly, as much of a small-minded self-righteous douchebag as Bachman is, she's still barely comparable to the likes of Hitler, the comparison is intellectually dishonest - There are plenty of reasons to dislike Bachman and plenty of ways to expose her bullshit and hypocrisy without resorting to being a little Godwin.
Quote:In the end, me and Void will kiss (NO TONGUE THIS TIME GODDAMNIT!!!) and make up. I will wax poetic about my guilty love affair with Anarchy (albeit the socialistic type) and we will find common ground again.
As long as you keep insinuating my ideals of a free and voluntary society make me comparable to someone like Hitler (which is both factually absurd and personally offensive) you'll see no such reconciliation.
Quote:I've been told that I "hate freedom"
Go find a single post where one of the "resident libertarians" has said that!
Quote:and might be the "S" word (socialist) by the resident libertarian types as well. I dont stamp my feet. I laugh and/or get busy with it.
Not in my definition of "Socialism", but even if that were the case, being called a "socialist" isn't something that seeks to associate the person with a mass murdering xenophobic tyrant unlike if I was to call you a "Stalinist" in the same way you call me a "Nazi", they're terms in completely different leagues.
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