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I will become Atheist if.....
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RE: I will become Atheist if.....
(March 27, 2018 at 12:28 pm)Khemikal Wrote: It;s really easy Mystic.  Use your own justification and simply sub in the word "god" for "my wife" or "steve".  The justification is identical, and if you accept that you have value because you have value to "inset the other guy here" it doesn't really matter whether or not the other guy is god, your wife....or some rando named Steve.  I mean hell, it could just be you.  

But Khem! You forget that the difference is God must be right because he knows everything because the book that he's the main character in says he knows everything and the book must be right because he says so right there in the book! Neither Steve nor your wife has written a magic book perfectly fit for cherry-picking that claims right in there that your wife/Steve must be right because they know everything and they must truly know everything because it says so right there in the magic book! It's totally different! Your wife and Steve aren't being even CLOSE to logically fallacious enough!

(March 27, 2018 at 12:32 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Value cannot be arbitrary for it to be meaningful to me.

Emphasis being to you. What is meaningful to you is what your brain values biochemically, and it's the same for everyone else and their values are no less real either. (The difference is that some people value values that are healthier and better promote other values rather than harm those things that others value!) You're kind of proving my point, MK!
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I will become Atheist if..... - by MysticKnight - March 27, 2018 at 11:21 am
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