RE: Potter to the clay
September 2, 2011 at 3:34 pm
(This post was last modified: September 2, 2011 at 3:41 pm by salty.)
Evidence. You don't want evidence Ace. I think we went over this.
You have a good point there. I believe the NT writers needed to be in the presence of God, mentored and taught by him because of their task, yes their faith was based on sight, but their continued movement, their miracles, their guidance, their ministry was made real without the physical presence of Jesus instead the Holy Spirit assisted them.
(September 2, 2011 at 9:15 am)Rhythm Wrote: And yet strangely your entire belief system is based exactly upon people who claim to have seen god. Claim to have witnessed his miracles. This was their entire argument for belief. We saw it, we touched him. It was very important to them that these things physically happened, and that there was proof that they did. I don't understand why a visit from god is such an off bounds request, and obviously neither did the writers of the NT.
You have a good point there. I believe the NT writers needed to be in the presence of God, mentored and taught by him because of their task, yes their faith was based on sight, but their continued movement, their miracles, their guidance, their ministry was made real without the physical presence of Jesus instead the Holy Spirit assisted them.
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6