(April 2, 2018 at 10:14 am)Little Rik Wrote: Suppose that all thousand and thousand of NDEs of today and of the past are all BS.
Done.
Quote:Suppose also that high degree of spirituality have nothing to do with God.
Done.
Quote:Suppose also that Shiva, Krishna, Jesus and other guru never existed.
Done
Quote:Suppose also that all those engaged in spiritual elevation have all got it wrong.
I don't agree with that. I'm sure people who are interested in spiritual elevation have gotten some things right.
Quote:Suppose also that the universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it.
Don't know how the universe "popped up" but magic isn't a very plausible assumption. It is also not APPARENT that anybody "runs it"... Where is the solid evidence? You can look into nature, like the Painted Desert in Arizona. Primitive people might think that some mythical being actually painted the rocks. But a geologist can explain how things happen naturally. Native Americans have myths about a spiritual creature making footprints on the moon... turns out to be craters. People assume God. Upon closer inspection... no God found. Not yet. Believe all you want. I don't believe because there is no proof. Show me the proof and I'll believe.
Quote:So considering that evidence for God is not there I should turn into an atheist that believe in magic?
You shouldn't believe in anything that hasn't been demonstrated, Rik.
Quote:Let me think VL.![]()
Let you? I'd give my left testicle to see you do it once!
Quote:No VL.
Atheism is unscientific.
Science contradict atheism at every step.
There is no chaos in the universe and believe in a universe not created by God is like to believe that our phones and laptops just fell into place without anyone designing them or putting them together so this idea is obviously absurd so God must be there.
The idea was absurd. Before Darwin. Now we can explain how life evolved.
Look at the whole universe. The VAST majority of it is inhospitable to life. "Destroy life" is the rule of the cosmos, and Earth is the only exception.
Look at the whole universe. Stars, black holes, collisions, pulsars. This shit is just happening. It is marvelous, I'll give you that. But no evidence for a creator is found anywhere.