Evolution

[Little Rik]

Suppose that all thousand and thousand of NDEs of today and of the past are all BS.

Done.

Suppose also that high degree of spirituality have nothing to do with God.

Done.

Suppose also that Shiva, Krishna, Jesus and other guru never existed.

Done

UN-Done.  

Suppose also that all those engaged in spiritual elevation have all got it wrong.

I don't agree with that. I'm sure people who are interested in spiritual elevation have gotten some things right.

That is bizarre VL.
Where would you think that spiritual elevation lead to?
To father Christmas?  

Suppose also that the universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it.

Don't know how the universe "popped up" but magic isn't a very plausible assumption. It is also not APPARENT that anybody "runs it"... Where is the solid evidence? You can look into nature, like the Painted Desert in Arizona. Primitive people might think that some mythical being actually painted the rocks. But a geologist can explain how things happen naturally. Native Americans have myths about a spiritual creature making footprints on the moon... turns out to be craters. People assume God. Upon closer inspection... no God found. Not yet. Believe all you want. I don't believe because there is no proof. Show me the proof and I'll believe.

So you reckon that Eben Alexander and so many ex atheists that now are strong theists after their NDE are all a bunch of idiots?  

So considering that evidence for God is not there I should turn into an atheist that believe in magic?

You shouldn't believe in anything that hasn't been demonstrated, Rik.

Actually I believe because I already have a very clear demonstration even without the NDEs.
The more I practice spirituality the more I perceive the divinity within.  

Let me think VL.  

Let you? I'd give my left testicle to see you do it once!

What about the right one VL?  
Is that one so precious to you?  

No VL.
Atheism is unscientific.
Science contradict atheism at every step.
There is no chaos in the universe and believe in a universe not created by God is like to believe that our phones and laptops just fell into place without anyone designing them or putting them together so this idea is obviously absurd so God must be there.

The idea was absurd. Before Darwin. Now we can explain how life evolved.

Look at the whole universe. The VAST majority of it is inhospitable to life. "Destroy life" is the rule of the cosmos, and Earth is the only exception.

Look at the whole universe. Stars, black holes, collisions, pulsars. This shit is just happening. It is marvelous, I'll give you that. But no evidence for a creator is found anywhere.

1) Darwin explained next to nothing.
The guy in all his honesty and gullibility thought only about body changes when in reality is the consciousness the driving force that allow changes.
In the mind of this gullible chap never pop up the idea about the driving force that allow changes.
Even worse is to see gullible people like you and most atheists that really believe that Darwin was a genius.    

2) True that the vast majority of the universe is inhospitable so what?
Among these inhospitable places there are million of other places where life is possible and the solar system is the perfect example.
Planet earth just sit among several inhospitable planets.

3) Earth is the only exception?
DOGMA VL DOGMA.
Scientists already tell us that life is possible in countless of other planets in other solar systems.  

4) Personal evidence for a creator will only be found the day you will start activating your inner self.
General evidence however can found through the NDEs.