RE: Regariding the evidence for materialism
September 4, 2011 at 7:26 pm
(This post was last modified: September 4, 2011 at 7:55 pm by Fred.)
(September 4, 2011 at 11:54 am)FaithNoMore Wrote: The lack of evidence of anything existing outside of the material world is the evidence for it.
This is how far it's fallen? You guys hvae gotten fat and lazy from kicking fundies. Imagine a believer throwing that line out. You'd feed him or her to the lions in a trice. No proof for goblins or the hobgoblins of consistency. Thoreauly played, that.
(September 4, 2011 at 11:45 am)theVOID Wrote: It's not so much ""the theory that physical matter is the only reality" as it is ""the theory that physical matter is the only reality for which we have good reason to believe exists".
Being materialists, I'd have to say you would have the inside rail on the belief that it is the only reality. I'm not really all that interested in what you believe here, as one flying teapot works as well as another, I suppose.
It very much is the theory that physical matter is all that exists. Ya painted yourselves into that box, so might as well own the damn thing, since you have such faith in it. Myself, I find it an extraordinary claim. Yet, all I got is questions about my proof. I don't have to prove anything. You folks made the claim, so where's the fucking evidence?
Quote:Nobody disputes the existence of matter, energy, space or time (I should hope),
Yes, you should hope and pray because I'm pretty sure space and time got shaken up pretty badly in some kind of equation or something to do with a light beam or some such. I know I heard that somewhere. And matter as we know it, I'm sure I heard that was not at all the case, either. But I'm not a physicist, so I muddle as best I can to keep up with this stuff.
Quote:the dispute is over whether or not there exist other types of things, such as "immaterial minds" or "spirits" etc. I've never seen either evidence for such other things nor any case that has established their necessity.
Uh, no. The dispute is whether matter is the only really real thing in the universe. It's a binary. There isn't any wiggle room. It either is, or it isn't. Materialists believe that it is. Fine. Where's the evidence?
