(April 23, 2018 at 2:11 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(April 23, 2018 at 2:08 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It would mean time began from something timeless Hammy.
The first moment in time still needs to come to be.
"First" is an explicitly temporal referant. There is no "first" outside of time.
The first moment in time needs to come to exist.
Yes, even Kalam argument is correct and proves a timeless Creator.