Oh no not another free will thread.

[Edwardo Piet]

Such a strawman.

The claims about God is unparsimonious deism at best and it actually encroaches onto the realm of science as non-deistic theism at worst: but you can't give me one reason to think acausality outside of science and our experience of reality is any more plausible than causality on that front. Despite my asking you your stance on this repeatedly.

You know what this makes you? A hypocrite.

We can be done now.  I think I got what I wanted to out of our interaction.

Really?

So, you wanted to reveal that you are incapable of distinguishing between epistemology and ontology? And the world as we experience it and the possible world outside of our experience? And truth and knowledge?

So you wanted to reveal that you also can't differentiate between an unparsimonious belief in a deity outside the universe as we experience it and a completely neutral belief in causality that is no less unknowably probable than the only possible alternative? You wanted to reveal your own inability to answer my question about what your intuition is about acausality outside of reality as you experience it... betraying your hypocrisy?

So you wanted to reveal that you're incapable of addressing my position and are repeatedly going to misunderstand it and call it "unscientific" when it doesn't even address matters of science as I made clear repeatedly all while ironically also displaying that you know less about the way in which science addresses the world than I do?

So you wanted to reveal that you wanted to spend most of your time during an argument about philosophical determinism rambling on about scientific quantum indeterminacy because you can't distinguish between that and philosophical indeterminism... despite me making the distinction right there in the OP?

You wanted to reveal all that? Then good job because you succeeded at that so well I think you deserve a gold star! Although unfortunately, as for your grade on philosophical thinking you get at best a D- for "denseness"... and that's being generous.

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Such a strawman.

The claims about God is unparsimonious deism at best and it actually encroaches onto the realm of science as non-deistic theism at worst: but you can't give me one reason to think acausality outside of science and our experience of reality is any more plausible than causality on that front. Despite my asking you your stance on this repeatedly.

You know what this makes you? A hypocrite.

We can be done now.  I think I got what I wanted to out of our interaction.

Sounds like an admittance of defeat (or trolling/baiting/provoking) to me. As you clearly have no good answer to that (mind you, you have no clear conception of what I have been actually saying either).

Did you just want to derail my thread with red herrings and strawmen and then quit the thread? Is that what you wanted?

Anyways, now that he's fucked off at least the rest of us can continue discussing the actual topic, free will, instead of wasting time on irrelevant bullshit and his own failure to make even the most basic philosophical distinctions.