Whateverist,
I do this on my phone so i haven't figured out how to get a quote to here. So i just copy and paste. I need to get my 14 year old daughter to show me what to do.
Anyway you said...." Don't mean to rush you -and I'm pretty sure I couldn't if I wanted to- but I've very curious what is going on with you. I wonder what your doubts are and how your confidence is holding up, if that is something you want to share in this environment. Anyhow you seem to have a strong center, I look forward to hearing more about whatever it may be that is going on in there."
To all ya'll on here....I have nothing to hide. I want ya'll to be honest with me so i will openly and honestly say that ya'll have some dang tough stuff! Your comments and questions are good and make me think. I am very confident and have doubts in what i believe. My problem is, along with the vast majority of believers in Christianity, is the fact, that we dont know how to defend it well, with excellency. Sometimes at all. The only thing that alot of Christians can do is say to you..." well, you just got to have faith". Then when hammered by people of ya'lls beliefs they get caught off guard and truly have no way to defend themselves. Thats not good enough. We all need to have faith, (yes you have faith too) that what we believe is truth. But like all of you have said...we have to have something to back that up. Ya'll want me to take the bible away as some of the evidence but that is where a lot of the evidence and proof starts for me and other christians.
But we are so Bible illiterate its not even funny. I have shared my faith, what i believe as truths, with my kids and raised them in a Christian home. They have been in church their whole life. The oldest started a community college 2 years ago. She has taken several classes in which professors have stated to the class "there is no God". The professors offer no solid proof but will not allow the kids to insert their beliefs into asignment or test. Now that would bother a lot of other Christians but it doesnt bother my family. I dont care about prayer in school or 10 commandments hanging on the walls of government buildings. But doesnt it seem they need to be fair? If professors make statements claiming no god then let the kids make their claims as well. Whatever religion/god that may be. All that to say this. Kids who are brought up in the Christian church and home....when they attend college, 85% of them start to question or fall away or completely walk away from their "faith". Reason... they do not know how to defend what they believe in. That bothers me. So i am on here to learn from ya'll. Like I asked in my very first poat.....What is it that these kids and my kids are hearing that makes them turn away? What makes people turn away from something they have believed? I share all this with my kids and wife. We are walking through this stuff. I really am sincere when i say thanks for your honesty.
I want my kids to be able to defend their belief even if it goes away from what i taught them. I want them to be sure and confident it. All I know is, ya'll or me is definitly wrong in our belief...period. We all will die... period...and when we do die we will all face the consequences of our choice for what we belief. I cant express how I desperately want my kids to be able to work that out for themselves, be SURE of what they believe and be able to DEFEND what they believe. That is why i need you guys. Like i said, i read to them what you say.
Sorry if that sounded like "preaching" to ya'll but i am talking about my kids.
Thanks.
I do this on my phone so i haven't figured out how to get a quote to here. So i just copy and paste. I need to get my 14 year old daughter to show me what to do.
Anyway you said...." Don't mean to rush you -and I'm pretty sure I couldn't if I wanted to- but I've very curious what is going on with you. I wonder what your doubts are and how your confidence is holding up, if that is something you want to share in this environment. Anyhow you seem to have a strong center, I look forward to hearing more about whatever it may be that is going on in there."
To all ya'll on here....I have nothing to hide. I want ya'll to be honest with me so i will openly and honestly say that ya'll have some dang tough stuff! Your comments and questions are good and make me think. I am very confident and have doubts in what i believe. My problem is, along with the vast majority of believers in Christianity, is the fact, that we dont know how to defend it well, with excellency. Sometimes at all. The only thing that alot of Christians can do is say to you..." well, you just got to have faith". Then when hammered by people of ya'lls beliefs they get caught off guard and truly have no way to defend themselves. Thats not good enough. We all need to have faith, (yes you have faith too) that what we believe is truth. But like all of you have said...we have to have something to back that up. Ya'll want me to take the bible away as some of the evidence but that is where a lot of the evidence and proof starts for me and other christians.
But we are so Bible illiterate its not even funny. I have shared my faith, what i believe as truths, with my kids and raised them in a Christian home. They have been in church their whole life. The oldest started a community college 2 years ago. She has taken several classes in which professors have stated to the class "there is no God". The professors offer no solid proof but will not allow the kids to insert their beliefs into asignment or test. Now that would bother a lot of other Christians but it doesnt bother my family. I dont care about prayer in school or 10 commandments hanging on the walls of government buildings. But doesnt it seem they need to be fair? If professors make statements claiming no god then let the kids make their claims as well. Whatever religion/god that may be. All that to say this. Kids who are brought up in the Christian church and home....when they attend college, 85% of them start to question or fall away or completely walk away from their "faith". Reason... they do not know how to defend what they believe in. That bothers me. So i am on here to learn from ya'll. Like I asked in my very first poat.....What is it that these kids and my kids are hearing that makes them turn away? What makes people turn away from something they have believed? I share all this with my kids and wife. We are walking through this stuff. I really am sincere when i say thanks for your honesty.
I want my kids to be able to defend their belief even if it goes away from what i taught them. I want them to be sure and confident it. All I know is, ya'll or me is definitly wrong in our belief...period. We all will die... period...and when we do die we will all face the consequences of our choice for what we belief. I cant express how I desperately want my kids to be able to work that out for themselves, be SURE of what they believe and be able to DEFEND what they believe. That is why i need you guys. Like i said, i read to them what you say.
Sorry if that sounded like "preaching" to ya'll but i am talking about my kids.
Thanks.
