RE: The Objective Moral Values Argument AGAINST The Existence Of God
May 1, 2018 at 12:49 pm
(This post was last modified: May 1, 2018 at 12:50 pm by henryp.)
(May 1, 2018 at 11:14 am)Hammy Wrote: Premise 1: If objective moral values exist they can exist with or without God.
Premise 2: Belief in objective moral values without God is more parsimonious than belief in objective moral values with God.
Premise 3: There are no other rational reasons to believe in God besides objective moral values.
Premise 4: Objective moral values exist
Conclusion: Even if belief in God is rational it's even more rational to not believe in God.
Premise 2 of the Theist argument, contradicts your premise 1 above.
They're saying
If Not B then Not A.
(which equals)
If A then B.
If no God then no Objective Morals
If Objective Morals then God.
You're asserting
A (objective morals exist) = True AND B (god exists) = False is possible.
If you can show an example where A is True and B is false (which is what you're claiming with Premise 1), you've shown their argument to be unsound. End of story. But that should be the conclusion you are working towards. Your premises 2, 3, 4 and conclusion are unnecessary. If you show your Premise 1 can be true, you've finished.
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And nothing personal on not addressing 90% of what you say. But you are not a concise thinker or writer. So unless I want each post to turn into 1000 page manuscripts addressing the entirety of every tangent brought up, I've got to try and steer the conversation towards what I'm trying to talk about.
