RE: The Objective Moral Values Argument AGAINST The Existence Of God
May 2, 2018 at 9:44 am
(This post was last modified: May 2, 2018 at 10:01 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 2, 2018 at 8:36 am)Hammy Wrote: Again, you're taking my argument out of context. Yes, it has nothing to do with God at all, like I said, I don't even believe in the existence of objective moral values with or without God. That is not the point of the argument. The point of the argument is that if objective moral values exist they're more likely to exist without God. (Surely you can accept that simply due to the fact that in all likelihood this universe wasn't made by God?).A ridiculous point from the outset. Moral realism being true is not more or less likely with or without a god. There is no existential relationship between the two. One does not inform us of the probability of the other, Hammys Law of Just The One Thing™ is not parsimony, and no one has any reason to accept the tortured premises you require in order to make all of these little contortions.
Personally, I chalk your continued remarks up to pigheadedness and the unfailing belief that your own propositions are not subject to Hammy's Law. What are the odds that Hammys Law, tortured propositions, and contortions-as-logic are all simultaneously true? Let's see some math.
Meanwhile, a far more concise and accurate counterargument to claims of divine contingency can certainly be offered. Piling further ridiculous shit on top of the misapprehensions a person must already possess in order to make such a claim is misguided, imo. I get that you want to reach a certain conclusion. I'm strongly suggesting that you can't get there from here..and have no need to go, anyway. So why bother? Why multiply entities beyond necessity in an argument that explicitly invokes parsimony? You only need a single premise in order to completely erode the divine contingency proposition. Are you being more or less rational by adding all of the additional, unnecessary......and, even more perplexingly, untrue shit?
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