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Potter to the clay
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RE: Potter to the clay
(August 29, 2011 at 4:32 pm)searchingforanswers Wrote: In my apologetic class we are reading te book crazy love by francis chan. It sucks ass. But tommorow we are gonna discuss it. Now chan ususes the passage in the bible which says it is absurd for clay to tell the potter how to shape it. He compares this to our relationship with god saying we have no right to question him an he is free to do as he pleases. Now lets just suppose for a minute this god does exist, doea he truly have the right to treat humans as he sees fit? In my opnion i dont think so. Just because human are capable of feeling and thinking-something clay lacks. However, i havent thought about this in depth. So what are your opnions? Would a divine creator have the authority to do whatever he wanted with his creation? Is it absurd for a creation to question their maker? Again im not saying i believe in a creator i just know this discussion will come up and wanted to see the forums opinion. Thanks.

So the premiss here is that 'god' made humans which confers the right to do what it likes with us.

I would say that (in the extremely unlikely event) the creation would only confer responsibility for peoples welfare not rights to control us like some kind of brutal feudal lord. who used to use this argument to justify their evil dominion by claiming appointment by god, (as our queen still does by the way)

http://home.iprimus.com.au/sevenstars/qu...ation.html

Quote:DIVINE APPOINTMENT
The Queen is a divinely appointed representative on the Lord's earthly Throne being a direct descendant of King David. The Davidic Throne has never lacked an heir male or female to occupy the Royal Office signifying God's authority over the Kingdoms of this world. Her calling "Defender of the Faith"- for the Gospel of Jesus Christ. No other world leader has such an awesome responsibility. The honour of having the Queen as our Monarch. 'God Save the Queen'.



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Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - August 29, 2011 at 4:32 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 4:34 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Violet - August 29, 2011 at 8:29 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - August 29, 2011 at 8:19 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:20 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Epimethean - September 17, 2011 at 1:52 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - August 29, 2011 at 8:23 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:25 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - August 29, 2011 at 8:27 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:28 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:30 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Violet - August 29, 2011 at 8:31 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - August 29, 2011 at 8:30 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:30 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:37 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - August 29, 2011 at 8:38 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:42 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by C Rod - August 29, 2011 at 8:48 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:50 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by C Rod - August 29, 2011 at 8:56 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2011 at 8:58 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Minimalist - August 29, 2011 at 9:00 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Justtristo - August 30, 2011 at 4:28 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - August 30, 2011 at 1:38 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Minimalist - August 30, 2011 at 12:33 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by salty - August 30, 2011 at 1:21 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ace Otana - August 30, 2011 at 1:53 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Minimalist - August 30, 2011 at 1:53 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by salty - August 30, 2011 at 4:15 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2011 at 4:39 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - August 30, 2011 at 4:51 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by salty - September 1, 2011 at 5:17 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Greatest I am - September 1, 2011 at 2:01 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 1, 2011 at 5:21 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by salty - September 2, 2011 at 5:09 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 2, 2011 at 6:11 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - September 1, 2011 at 5:22 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ace Otana - September 2, 2011 at 5:42 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by salty - September 2, 2011 at 9:10 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ace Otana - September 2, 2011 at 9:47 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by salty - September 2, 2011 at 3:34 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ace Otana - September 2, 2011 at 3:52 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by KichigaiNeko - September 2, 2011 at 9:14 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - September 2, 2011 at 9:15 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by KichigaiNeko - September 2, 2011 at 9:19 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ryft - September 4, 2011 at 10:08 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - September 4, 2011 at 11:20 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ryft - September 5, 2011 at 12:49 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by ElDinero - September 5, 2011 at 7:50 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by Minimalist - September 5, 2011 at 2:07 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 5, 2011 at 7:57 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - September 5, 2011 at 8:30 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ryft - September 5, 2011 at 1:58 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 5, 2011 at 2:21 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Ryft - September 5, 2011 at 2:52 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - September 5, 2011 at 2:00 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by C Rod - September 6, 2011 at 1:59 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 5, 2011 at 2:57 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - September 5, 2011 at 2:59 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - September 6, 2011 at 2:01 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by C Rod - September 13, 2011 at 1:16 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 13, 2011 at 1:20 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Darwinian - September 13, 2011 at 1:29 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by C Rod - September 13, 2011 at 1:39 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 6, 2011 at 2:02 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by downbeatplumb - September 6, 2011 at 2:13 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Darwinian - September 13, 2011 at 1:46 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by C Rod - September 13, 2011 at 1:50 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by downbeatplumb - September 13, 2011 at 1:50 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Darwinian - September 13, 2011 at 1:53 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by downbeatplumb - September 13, 2011 at 1:58 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Darwinian - September 13, 2011 at 2:02 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by downbeatplumb - September 13, 2011 at 2:39 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 13, 2011 at 2:41 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by downbeatplumb - September 13, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by KichigaiNeko - September 14, 2011 at 5:20 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by lucent - September 16, 2011 at 10:55 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 17, 2011 at 9:16 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by The Grand Nudger - September 16, 2011 at 11:07 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by lucent - September 17, 2011 at 2:21 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by MilesTailsPrower - September 17, 2011 at 12:05 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by FutureAndAHope - September 17, 2011 at 4:12 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by BloodyHeretic - September 17, 2011 at 1:25 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by searchingforanswers - September 17, 2011 at 2:02 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by BloodyHeretic - September 17, 2011 at 2:10 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 7:48 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by BloodyHeretic - September 18, 2011 at 8:26 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 7:12 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Zen Badger - September 18, 2011 at 8:48 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by Darwinian - September 18, 2011 at 7:57 am
RE: Potter to the clay - by frankiej - September 18, 2011 at 3:17 pm
RE: Potter to the clay - by Epimethean - September 18, 2011 at 6:01 pm

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