Civilized trial thread

[RoadRunner79]

I personally think the forum as a whole should make name calling, insults, detailed threads with insults etc - bannable offenses. Not banned forever but time limits.

Even if I were an atheist, if I posted something that someone didn’t like about say politics, I don’t want to deal with that one special poster calling me a fuck wit or whatever, as it derails the dialogue. Other forums ban for a day or week or whatever, those types of offenders. Religious forums does this and it works. Play nice or go in time out.

I think if those rules were enforced (whether the mod spots it on sight or it’s reported) there wouldn’t be a need for a separate space.

More censorship is not the answer, the answer to to just be an adult and interact with who you want to. Its so easy to ignore replies you don't want to, and interact with only the people you want to.

I think this whole idea is childish.

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I don't think it is about use curse words either (if it's a part of it, I think that it should be a small part of it certainly with some grace).   As for your " safe space", you just seem to keep wanting to repeat and not listen. I can speak for myself thanks!  

I truly don't understand your aversion to a civil part of the forum with an emphasis on honest discussion. Perhaps afraid isn't the correct word, but I find the opposition to it humorous. 
If you have a particular point that you want addressed, perhaps you should be more civil.  Right now, the crap covers anything of value.

Maybe you get a lot of crap towards you because of a problem with you that inspires it as a response. For example insulting people and then crying that they aren't being civil enough towards you. It is easy to have civil conversations on here and ignore the crap, if that is what you are after.

I don't know how that is such a problem. I think that this idea is being championed by forum theists says it all. Theists, as a group, always tend towards censorship and away from free speech. Both in reality and online. Atheist forums are always rowdier more fun places. There are already so many places on christian forums with exactly the rules you guys want. There is no reason to have it hear, and I hope the idea is not even entertained. I think the very existence of it here would detract from the fun chaos of atheist forums and basically create two forums. We already have a place we like. If you want more censorship, just go join a Christian forum, they are full of it.

Also, it still sounds like you want a safe space. You say I'm not listening, but I've read everything you wrote twice and you aren't even offering a reason it's not. So maybe try that, start with "this is not a safe space because....."

The problem is it’s not just theist who think it’s a good idea. And I don’t see anyone asking or suggesting special rules for theists. I don’t think I understand what you mean by safe space, unless you are talking about an area where civil discourse is promoted (which is all anyone is promoting). I think that their are atheist who would benefit, and that we might hear more from some of the more reasonable ones (which I think is good for the forum and good for atheists as a group).

The thing is that the forum does have rules, and it does censor. There is a whole page of rules, and the mods have the authority to shut people down. Just ask Zen Classic and his many socks. I think that these rules make things better. Likewise I believe that there is a rule against prostelitizing. Should we lift that? You say that the adult thing is to just ignore the trolls, which I agree, and I admit I’m not always very good at. But I don’t think that an area that promotes discussion is bad, and raises the question of if you don’t like it, shouldn’t you be adult eneough to ignore that area?

I think it would make things better. However I’m not opposed to some being loud who make atheism look bad either. I can understand where it might be difficult to lay out concrete rules. From many of the responses, I’m doubtful it would work anyway.