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Let's talk about bias!!!
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RE: Let's talk about bias!!!
(May 9, 2018 at 1:34 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Technically you'd be trusting the efficacy of logic.  The incorporation of things like blinds, randomized sampling, minimum sample sizes, and collaborative analysis reduce the potential for those things that fuel the relevant biases.

That may be true, but depending on the branch of psychology, it is not always a given that these methods are incorporated to the extent that you are inferring. Because of this, it leaves a lot of the empirical evidence to represent personality, intelligence and bias wanting. This is also in the realm of what we consider "verifiable" metrics such as Big 5, IQ, and MMPI. In short, we know what we want to measure but there is still a whole bunch of things in our psyche that we have no idea about. Why this matters is that we should first have a good idea of the capabilities and temperaments of individuals who are conducting these other experiments to make sure people are not lying out their ass. Furthermore, with enough confirmation bias, this can overcome something even as foolproof as a double blind experiment if the right environmental triggers are present for the scientists to collaborate to skew the results. Not saying I have evidence of this happening, but just that it is still entirely possible.

(May 9, 2018 at 1:40 pm)surreptitious57 Wrote:
Quick Wrote:How do you recognise bias in your own life?

How does one ride themselves of bias?

Is it an exercise of will or simply something you learn?

How does our perception tie into our biases? 

Are our tools to measure the universe fallible due to bias?

I recognise bias in my own life whenever I think emotionally rather than logically. I prefer to think logically but because
I am human that is not always possible. Although at least I know when I am doing it and also know it can be corrected

One can never rid themselves of bias because to think without any would be the equivalent of thinking like a machine

Reducing bias is both an act of will and something one learns and gets easier over time. Being aware of logical fallacies
which are flaws in reasoning is probably the most obvious way to detect bias in ones own thinking. I refuse as a matter
of principle to believe any thing because belief is a product of faith and faith positions require zero evidence. And I also
avoid holding strong opinions because they are not facts and so cannot be demonstrated to be true.  Even though they
are not actually incompatible with the knowledge they are based upon

All perception is bias because it is subjective interpretation. Even when a particular view one holds is held by others as
well and even universally so. It is still bias because it involves a choice between at least two alternative positions. The
only time there is no bias is when there is absolutely no choice. But in reality there will always be choices even if one
does not accept them for whatever reason [ legal / moral / psychological ]

The scientific method is not fallible but those who practice it are as scientists are human and biased like everyone else
But they always try to be bias free when they are actually doing science. When they are not doing it it does not matter

Good well reasoned out response.

What would you say if I said we evolved the capacity for emotions to inform us on the world around us? Emotions are the fastest form of communication we have within ourselves. Given we have a long lineage of having emotions, how does one overcome the bias of emotion? Given there will probably always be crisis' situations in the human race, and given crisis' situations require the fastest of responses sometimes, would you say emotions are still necessary for the human race?
But your individuality and your present need will be swept away by change, 
and what you now ardently desire will one day become the object of abhorrence. 
~ Schiller - 'Psychological Types'
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Let's talk about bias!!! - by Quick - May 9, 2018 at 10:19 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by LastPoet - May 9, 2018 at 10:32 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Quick - May 9, 2018 at 10:38 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by LastPoet - May 9, 2018 at 10:46 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Quick - May 9, 2018 at 10:48 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by LastPoet - May 9, 2018 at 10:54 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Quick - May 9, 2018 at 11:00 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by LastPoet - May 9, 2018 at 11:06 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by The Grand Nudger - May 9, 2018 at 11:03 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Silver - May 9, 2018 at 11:05 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Quick - May 9, 2018 at 11:07 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Astreja - May 9, 2018 at 11:15 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Quick - May 9, 2018 at 11:18 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Astreja - May 9, 2018 at 1:06 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by drfuzzy - May 9, 2018 at 12:25 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Angrboda - May 9, 2018 at 12:51 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 9, 2018 at 12:54 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by *Deidre* - May 9, 2018 at 1:02 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Brian37 - May 9, 2018 at 1:07 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Quick - May 9, 2018 at 1:09 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Astreja - May 9, 2018 at 3:12 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by downbeatplumb - May 9, 2018 at 1:15 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Mister Agenda - May 9, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Quick - May 9, 2018 at 1:19 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Mister Agenda - May 9, 2018 at 3:02 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by The Grand Nudger - May 9, 2018 at 1:34 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by surreptitious57 - May 9, 2018 at 1:40 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Quick - May 9, 2018 at 1:43 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by surreptitious57 - May 9, 2018 at 2:26 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by The Grand Nudger - May 9, 2018 at 1:50 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Quick - May 9, 2018 at 2:09 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by The Grand Nudger - May 9, 2018 at 2:15 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by paulpablo - May 9, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Edwardo Piet - May 9, 2018 at 6:27 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by surreptitious57 - May 9, 2018 at 6:41 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by The Valkyrie - May 9, 2018 at 6:46 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Succubus - May 9, 2018 at 7:07 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by A Theist - May 9, 2018 at 8:32 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by chimp3 - May 9, 2018 at 8:53 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by brewer - May 10, 2018 at 11:08 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Quick - May 10, 2018 at 2:39 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by chimp3 - May 14, 2018 at 9:54 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by The Grand Nudger - May 10, 2018 at 2:47 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Drich - May 11, 2018 at 3:00 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Astreja - May 11, 2018 at 3:18 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by LostLocke - May 12, 2018 at 1:01 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Drich - May 14, 2018 at 9:24 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Astreja - May 14, 2018 at 11:13 am
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Minimalist - May 11, 2018 at 3:35 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Minimalist - May 12, 2018 at 1:10 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by The Grand Nudger - May 14, 2018 at 1:52 pm
RE: Let's talk about bias!!! - by Drich - May 14, 2018 at 1:57 pm

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