(May 15, 2018 at 1:21 am)Khemikal Wrote:(May 15, 2018 at 1:14 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, I don't disagree with the simple definition of the term. Just logically speaking it would have to be at the lowest level of that machine type.The analogy to machines is incoherent at the lowest "levels" of biolgy.
Quote:LOL...I see what you are saying. I see it that the lowest level machine is the pump which is irreducibly complex. There is no other machine below this but a bunch of components.You can "see it" however you like..but you;'re still flat wrong, and so was Behe.
Quote:What would it take for you to become believers that there is a Creator?If people stopped fobbing off this ID shit all at once, that might do the trick. Imagine a world in which you think the ID thoughts but can;t form them into words. They just get stuck in your throat. It would be as if the lord of creation was sick of people lying about him.
Proteins are molecular machines. It is not just an analogy.
We shall see who is wrong. I am still looking into it.
ID is scientific reasoning for a Creator. Can't give that up. We've come so far in our discoveries. I am not lying. Everything I said I believe.