(May 15, 2018 at 1:44 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(March 19, 2018 at 5:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Not immediately, though.There was no one named "Jesus" until about 1630 A.D. Before then he was known as Yeshua or some other variation of that name, maybe Iesus.
Celsus writing towards the end of the 2d century is the first Greco-Roman writer to mention anyone named "Jesus." Even Lucian of Samosata, some 20 years earlier heard the tale of the shitwits worshipping a crucified criminal but he never mentions the name.
Suetonius, Tacitus ( if not a total forgery ) and Pliny the Younger mention Christus.... or more probably "Chrestus" but none of them ever heard of this jesus guy. Suetonius, the youngest of the three died in 130, some 50 years before Celsus.
This suggests that the addition of "jesus" to the story is a second-century rewrite.
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