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New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
(May 16, 2018 at 11:34 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 11:25 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: By around twenty weeks gestation, a human fetus can taste, dream, hear its mother’s voice, experience comfort and distress, and possibly (though it’s disputed) feel pain.  Just because a living thing isn’t fully conscious doesn’t mean there is no moral discussion to be had here.  Most emotionally well-adjusted folk wouldn’t think it right to stomp out their hamster when they’ve grown tired of it.  Maybe we can give an experiential human fetus at least as much consideration as we would give a hamster.
Is the hamster living inside the owner .And no ones killing it because there tired of it that's a strawman.
It’s not a strawman, because I am not fostering a pro-life argument.  I am ultimately pro-choice.  We have to preserve bodily autonomy first and foremost.  Forcing women to have babies is the wrong side of progress.  But, I do think that there is a meaningful and ontological difference between a zygote and a six month old fetus, and for me, this presents as a true moral dilemma with regard to abortion.  I also find it morally repugnant when people talk about living human fetuses like they’re inanimate objects undeserving of even a moment of consideration.
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Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant - by LadyForCamus - May 17, 2018 at 8:43 am

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