RE: Ybe an atheist
May 25, 2018 at 1:25 am
(This post was last modified: May 25, 2018 at 2:02 am by Losty.)
(May 25, 2018 at 12:29 am)robvalue Wrote:(May 24, 2018 at 2:42 pm)Ybe Wrote: " I'm nominally an atheist because every definition of God I've heard of consists of one or more of the following: 1) Incoherent 2) Untestable 3) Relabelling"
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"I have not seen any evidence or arguments for god that I find convincing. I find them to be flawed, fallacious,, and in the best of situations merely inconclusive. It's logical for me to withhold belief in a proposition until sufficient evidence has been adduced, so I am an atheist."
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( I will apologize, now for any errors in keeping track of y'all). I am asking my Q to (As), if you consider yourself one.
It seems you 2 folk believe you have some coherent, testable, non-relabeling, non-flawed, non-fallacious, logical. reason to answer the:
Q. Is there any logical. reasonable. rational reason to be an A?
Am I correct, that you both believe your view(s) to be rational, etc?
Yes, I gave you my reasons. You can challenge any of them if you want. You can produce a reason I should care, or produce a definition of God that doesn't fall into my three categories. So far, every theist I have talked to has failed on all these counts. I'm not saying with certainty that a theist will never succeed. But until such time, I'm an atheist and an apatheist. I'm quite comfortable with that, and I'm comfortable with other people being theists, whether they have good reasons or not.
If you don't think my reasons are rational, I'm also comfortable with that. You're welcome to say why.
With regard to a generic creator, I'm completely undecided. This is still being an atheist, if you call such thing a god, since I lack belief that it's real as of yet.
So, you believe your view to be rational. And your logical, rational, reasonable reason for being an A is every definition of G you've heard is one or more of the following 1) Incoherent 2) Untestable 3) Relabelling".
Perhaps you can clarify by giving your definitions of 1) Incoherent 2) Untestable 3) Relabelling. Oh yeah, be sure that they are 1) Coherent 2) Testable 3) and never Relabeled.
No offense, but your reason appears to be incoherent. Aren't you saying your reasonable reason for being an A is justified because you have reasonably reasoned about G definitions?
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Edited to fix quote. ~Losty
Edited to fix quote. ~Losty