(May 25, 2018 at 2:22 pm)Ybe Wrote:I don't think god exists because I have never been convinced by the arguments or "evidence" for a god.(May 25, 2018 at 6:00 am)To robvalue Wrote: RV: ...putting the microscope on the wrong side...YB: Agreed, there are 2 sides. Either (A) or (not A). Inspection is about if A side is reasonable or not.
RV: We're talking about...
YB: A or not A
RV: A simple example from your side could destroy my entire case.
Ybe: Your case being, A side is reasonable? (Just focusing here).
RV: 1) Incoherent: lacking any useful meaning, or so vague as to provide no substance.
This is, of course, subjective. I'm not claiming to be perfect. I'm responding to reality on its own terms, and the claims I'm given to the best of my ability. I'd be very interested in something actually real here, so it's in my interest to try and fish out anything that could lead to something. If I can't understand something, I can't evaluate it. That's a fact I just can't get around. I always encourage people to explain (as you're doing) and allow them to get around my barriers if they wish.
YB: I will have to take this a little at a time. Re your above. Sorry, a few terms I need defined to understand and evaluate.
vague -
substance -
subjective -
perfect -
reality/real -
fact -
(You can just type or past them to the above, if you like). Short and simple hopefully.
I also find the idea of a god overly simplistic, childlike, to think the universe exists as some sort of story rather than the unfeeling thing it is.
It is way for the powerless to feel powerful.
They can control the volcano god if they pray to the sprit in the mountain.
it is placebo for the feeble minded.
I think the that the idea of god is silly, therefore I am an atheist.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.