(May 26, 2018 at 8:52 am)robvalue Wrote:The discussion is about I mean is about the Q is there any logical. reasonable. rational reason to be an A.(May 25, 2018 at 2:22 pm)Ybe Wrote: YB: Agreed, there are 2 sides. Either (A) or (not A). Inspection is about if A side is reasonable or not.
RV: We're talking about...
YB: A or not A
RV: A simple example from your side could destroy my entire case.
Ybe: Your case being, A side is reasonable? (Just focusing here).
RV: 1) Incoherent: lacking any useful meaning, or so vague as to provide no substance.
This is, of course, subjective. I'm not claiming to be perfect. I'm responding to reality on its own terms, and the claims I'm given to the best of my ability. I'd be very interested in something actually real here, so it's in my interest to try and fish out anything that could lead to something. If I can't understand something, I can't evaluate it. That's a fact I just can't get around. I always encourage people to explain (as you're doing) and allow them to get around my barriers if they wish.
YB: I will have to take this a little at a time. Re your above. Sorry, a few terms I need defined to understand and evaluate.
vague -
substance -
subjective -
perfect -
reality/real -
fact -
(You can just type or past them to the above, if you like). Short and simple hopefully.
I told you I'm not going to define all the words I use. You won't even define one word, "God", the point of the whole discussion. I don't think you really need all those words explained.
And I'm trying to fill in blanks
A: My logical rational reason for being an A is_____________________________.
And that is supported by the logical rational reason of ________________________.
From:
I'm nominally an atheist because every definition of God I've heard of consists of one or more of the following:
1) Incoherent RV: - lacking any useful meaning, or so vague as to provide no substance.
2) Untestable
3) Relabelling
And that is supported by the logical rational reason of "When confirmed and verified proof is presented,".
I want to make sure your of your logical reason for being a n A and according to you in the above; definitions being vague or incoherent somehow have something to do with your logical reason for being an A. It is confusing. I don't like confusion. Perhaps you could make a succinct statement that fills in the blanks above and I will go from there.
For example:
My logical reason for being an A is,
I am certain about my belief
and that is supported by,
I know no I have no incoherent non vague definitions are
thoroughly tested my being an A by __________
Keep things labeled as they are.