RE: Ybe an atheist
May 29, 2018 at 1:57 am
(This post was last modified: May 29, 2018 at 2:00 am by Ybe.
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(May 28, 2018 at 9:49 pm)Magilla Wrote:1. Just to be clear you realize this thread is not about proving or disproving G , right? (see 1st Post)Quote:YbeMagilla
It is an opinion unless you can prove all evidence you have seen is not sufficient.
And that you are able to reason about evidence logically and properly.
And that you are not denying the evidence for whatever reason.
The crux is that as an atheist, I have not seen any convincing evidence. Whatever evidence I have seen does not convince me; and yes that's an opinion.
In my set of beliefs, it is only my opinion that counts, and for everyone else, so too theirs.
If the existence of a god could be proved, and was proven, I'd believe. If there is convincing evidence, (for me) then tautologically I'd be convinced.
Until then I'm unconvinced, and I won't believe that of which I have not been convinced. That is the only rational, logical position for me.
Magilla.
MG: Whatever evidence I have seen does not convince [i]me;[/i] and yes that's an opinion.
YB: Thanks for an opinion.
MG: In my set of beliefs, it is only my opinion that counts, and for everyone else, so too theirs
YB: Sounds like a contradiction. perhaps this didn't come out right?
MG: If the existence of a god could be proved, and was proven, I'd believe. If there is convincing evidence, (for me) then tautologically I'd be convinced.
Until then I'm unconvinced, and I won't believe that of which I have not been convinced. That is the only rational, logical position for me.
YB: Until a rational logical reason (not opinion) is given as to why one who says, I lack belief in G, would hold such a view, then my Q has not been logically answered.
And as to your opinion that your position is the only rational, logical position for you.
I would ask you to ask yourself how do you know or come to know that?
Were you always convinced that your position is the rational logical position for you, or were you at one point unconvinced and finally got the convincing evidence you needed to be convinced?
How do you know if you are really convinced now and aren't just fooling yourself that you're convinced, that your position is the rational logical position for you.
Finally, is the convincing evidence, only enough to convince yourself, or would I be convinced also ? As only rational logical (non- opinion) type of reasons are what I have found convincing.
Thanks again for your opinions. Get back to me when you have some rational support for being an A