(May 30, 2018 at 3:59 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:(May 30, 2018 at 3:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I agree with Neo on this. And I would say Atheism being embraced world-wide, would lead to apathy to the oppression in the world and it's bad enough as is, with people taking their duty to the oppressed lightly.
Watching oppressors oppress, is being partners in the crime per teachings of the holy family of the last reminder revealed to humanity.
And there is consequences, eternal consequences, of living in luxury while doing nothing for oppressed.
And till people understand this, as love for humans can't motivate people as you can see everyone says their empathetic but do little for the oppressed, until they understand the consequence of their apathy, and understand to the extent perceive to the extent of being in intense fear of the consequences, oppression will continue.
Fear of God is a necessary condition to relieve the world of oppressors and oppression.
It won't happen without it.
Furthermore, it seems Atheists tend to be on the wrong side with too many moral issues. This shows it leads to confusion regarding morality.
No. Atheism, generally, encompasses humanisn. That leads to the caring for our fellow humans.
You forget that most - certainly not all - of those oppressors you mention believe they have a god figure on their side.
Fear doesn't lead to the destruction of oppression, hatred, or corruption. That only comes from an open society.
Everyone can assert good morals and standards. Relieving the world of oppressors is going to take a people who are courageous, brave, and can endure oppression and not selling out their dignity for temporal pleasures. To do that, it needs fuel and steering on course. And at the end of it, without trust in the Creator that will get us through when times get tough as he did in the past with Moses and previous savior Messengers who saved the believers from the oppression they faced of the deceivers and manipulators...
Without trust..there will be no salvation. And when we sincerely turn to God and hope in his champion Leader he appointed, everything will be easy
Relieving the world of false authority can't be done with apathy and just words that you don't believe in false authority. You have to replace it with something tangible.
If people are going stop getting all their enlightenment/confusion from x people, then replacing with y people and claiming the same thing that x people except with non-Creator mythology and petty gods (like material things acquired in this world) to replace the God as highest valued being, is no solution.
At the end, a figure like Moses and hope in such a figure to be a relief for the oppressed and implementation of God's severe justice on the oppressors, if this is the only path forward for humanity then yes I can have a problem with Atheism as well as to all religions who misguided with respect to the need of navigation from God and guidance from him.
Atheism makes it as if it's the solution to the divisions and mess of religions, but it's not. It's just going to lead to more divisions and ignorance.
Religions are a mess- but turning away from the question of religion and just doing away with God, sorry, that is a lazy apathetic way of handling this great divide we have.
You have intelligence. You can sort it out. Just takes effort. A huge hint: the true religion will have similarities yes, but also complete different way of approaching religion than all others that will guide to the straight path for all humans and is the way forward.
And avoiding and not accepting proofs of God just as to do away with the mess of religions, is no better, then the laziness of religious who don't seek the truth and way forward to unite humanity.
