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Race and IQs
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RE: Race and IQs
Here's the gist of what I have to say: IQ tests are flawed. And bear in mind, when I was about six, I had an IQ test that gave me a score of 176, so it's not like I'm bitter about getting a low score. Just to take one example: in the lead-up to the Nuremberg Trials, Joachim von Ribbentrop wound up getting the highest score. Bear in mind, he was one of those Nazis that literally all other Nazis hated, and in this case, because of his smugness matched only by his utter incompetence, including being the Reich Minister for Foreign Affairs for the last seven years of the regime without knowing what his foreign policy even was, and spending two years as German Ambassador to England during the appeasement era, and given his idiotic handling of it all, it's a wonder it got anywhere.

I'm not sure of the exact differences between "Races" IQ-wise, although one thing's sure: if 50% of Africans reach a score that puts them on the "retarded" end of the scale (and I mean that in the most literal sense of the word, since 70 ), there's probably something wrong with the test. IQ test scores (at least for adults) are designed to be normally distributed, and the mean score becomes 100. When the average becomes less or more than 100, it's generally assumed that the scored would need to be recalibrated. And, while the proportion of "races" in this population represented aren't given, I have to say, there would have to be an unusually large number of "East Asians" in the mix for this to not be seriously eyebrow raising.

And, even if the results are absolutely correct, this does not necessarily mean that it means there's something inherently wrong with the "races" in question. It's pretty well-established that nurture can play as important a role as nature, and that an enriched environment can help change things, and given the environment a disproportionately high number of black people live in, it makes sense that their brains' growth got stunted. IQ is not set in stone. Maybe believing that black people, on the whole, have a lower IQ might not be inherently racist, but the key would have to require acknowledging that environmental factors play a huge role in it, and, indeed, emphasisising their role in IQs and hoping that with better opportunities, those scores (among many other things) can change for the better. To do otherwise is to take black people by the hands and go:



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Race and IQs - by Alexmahone - May 31, 2018 at 2:59 pm
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