Ybe an atheist

[The Valkyrie]

Not really, I have provided evidence for my particular beliefs. I have shown evidence why Deism is irrational for one.

I can't prove a particular particular to the extent of it's minute details God, but I have shown evidence for a Helping Master God that is the True King and the Guiding Lord of humanity.

Right now, I truthfully doubt some laws in Islam, like being allowed to marry a second wife without permission of the first wife.  I find this problematic and I find Quran only allows it in context of when the task of helping orphans becomes too much and there is a need of marrying another wife to help take care of them.

So I don't know how to say this, but I can't point to the Islamic God, because Islam is undefined right now. What I think of it or what you think of it, may have little to do with actually what Mohammad and the enlightened followers of his, really knew and believed of it.

The family of Mohammad did their best, but at the end, when they were no longer here, things became volatile as in the past.

I can't point to the details... Stories like the animals on the arc or what not, can all be misunderstood parables of a higher truth or may not be.  I can't make you see what I see.

However, I have provided evidence for a general framework over the years. I have provide over 14 proofs for one God, and have brought at least three different proofs on the need of guidance from God in form of a religion.

I have provided particular proof for the family of the reminder in Quran as well if Islam is true, and by that method, argued one reason I believe it's true, and that is because there is something sinister on the hearts and minds of people keeping them from seeing them, despite the norms of language indicating they are clearly in there. That to me is a sufficient one stone hit all birds (proves magic, God, Islam, the family of the reminder, and the path forward).

I can iterate through those if you like.

Here's the problem.

You ask us to provide reasons we reject all religious claims presented to us, but when I ask you to do the same, outside your particular sphere of interest, you pretty much ignore it and state that you have presented evidence for your own.

What theists tend to present as evidence is what they themselves would accept from their own beliefs but reject from others.

If your holy book says your prophet flew to the moon on a winged horse, you accept it. If someone elses book states that their prophet did the same thing you would reject it and likely laugh at how ridiculous the claim is.

It's a personal bias. And I believe Shermer has explained it very well in a couple of speeches.

So, what you present and accept as evidence, we reject as claims. You reject much of Christiany and Judaism, and they reject much of your beliefs even though you basically worship the same deity.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to continue with these long, circular discussions.

You believe what you believe and that's fine.

What you believe convinces you of it's authenticity and that's fine. And you don't have to justify it to me.

But we don't believe what you believe and I don't have to justify it to you. Especially with long explanations that you're going to reject anyway.