RE: To All Those Theists Who Aren't In It For The Swag
May 31, 2018 at 7:48 pm
(This post was last modified: May 31, 2018 at 8:01 pm by Mystic.)
(May 31, 2018 at 7:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote: How would you know he was "god?" It's easy to say but harder to prove.
You and I agree on this, it would be impossible in this scenario.
It would be like saying what if Israel (Jacob) was evil.
If he was, all of the miracles of Moses would be proof of nothing to Pharaoh.
(May 31, 2018 at 7:47 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I still don't understand the thought experiment lol...
Iblis' forces, all except him probably feel they are the right guides and the true Angels. He is probably the only one who fell who knows he is evil and wrong. That is why all misguidance is then single to him, because all the demons under him probably don't much know better like the humans they "enlighten".
They might argue, just because Gabriel and Michael and the Angels with these two, Michael being the head while Gabriel being the highest veil among them, "these are stronger but might doesn't make right."
Intuitively that seems true. Up until you realize the oneness of God and God is strong and powerful, and responsible guardian over this world.
Hearing something from an Angel or having telepathic vision from the dark forces, is different the ascending through the door of guidance and God has adorned the sky of this world with lanterns for those who look.
The lanterns are guides, lights that guide. But how to know the true guides from deceivers.
This is all important, and I think the heart of the Torah and Gospels, and Quran is about this.
Jacob can defeat even Angels in fighting, he has to, or would not be God's guardian king from Abraham's offspring.
Much more is to be said, but, this is a key topic.
