(June 16, 2018 at 7:14 pm)Haipule Wrote: Why do you limit yourself by rejecting the One Whom caused all this to Exist?
(June 5, 2018 at 10:00 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(June 5, 2018 at 9:48 pm)CDF47 Wrote: He is outside the math of this universe. He created it.
If he existed and the universe did not, then that moment and that of creation are two moments, and he exists in time (Craig, 2002). If he existed in time, and is a necessary being -- has always existed -- then he couldn't have created the universe, as that would have required the traversal of an actual infinite, which is impossible (Craig, 2007). If he existed and created simultaneously, then he also exists in time, as simultaneity is a temporal relation. In that case he did not create the universe because a cause must precede its effect. So, your God did not create the universe in either case. As this exhausts the potential cases, your God did not create the universe. Since God is by definition the creator of the universe, your God does not exist.
QED.
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