RE: Why believe the bible?
July 2, 2018 at 9:43 pm
(This post was last modified: July 2, 2018 at 10:38 pm by Succubus.)
(July 2, 2018 at 6:07 pm)JairCrawford Wrote: As for primary sources outside of the Bible, there is Josephus, although I have noted that you are asserting that fourth century Christians fabricated the entire Testimonium, so I can presume you do not consider it a viable source at all.
However, that fourth century Christians fabricated the entirety of the Testimonium...
I will never tire of quoting this:
Quote:In a single paragraph (the so-called Testimonium Flavianum) Josephus confirms every salient aspect of the Christ-myth:
1. Jesus's existence 2. his 'more than human' status 3. his miracle working 4. his teaching 5. his ministry among the Jews and the Gentiles 6. his Messiahship 7. his condemnation by the Jewish priests 8. his sentence by Pilate 9. his death on the cross 10. the devotion of his followers 11. his resurrection on the 3rd day 12. his post-death appearance 13. his fulfillment of divine prophecy 14. the successful continuance of the Christians.
In just 127 words Josephus confirms everything – now that is a miracle!
The entirety of the testimonium? The testimonium is one short paragraph.
I'll be surprised and alarmed if I haven't been ninja'd with this one.
My red.
(July 2, 2018 at 6:36 pm)JairCrawford Wrote: ... I'm genuinely asking as I need to do more reading on the argument from silence regarding the Testimonium.
Enjoy.
(July 2, 2018 at 6:43 pm)JairCrawford Wrote:(July 2, 2018 at 6:39 pm)Kit Wrote: If a common kernel can be found? Bitch, now you're just motherfucking reaching, straight to nonsense land where all that imaginary poppycock exists that fuels your illogical faith.
If you want to be taken seriously, stop being such a goddamn apologist.
Again, if someone questions my beliefs, I am naturally going to respond. I don't expect you to agree, or take me seriously even for that matter. That is out of my control.
How very, reasonable.
Just a heads up lads and lass's. Remember the five hundred!
(July 2, 2018 at 9:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I love the gospel of peter with the giant walking, talking, cross. So fucking stupid even early xhristards wouldn't put it in their shitty bible!
Is that the one where he brings a blokes tea back to life, the resurrected smoked salmon?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
