What the world needs and the best that can happen to anyone

[Angrboda]

Seems to me that having faith in God to 'repair the damage' is kind of like thanking the man who sells you a bandage after stabbing you with a knife.

I think that what I said was a poor choice of words. What would really like to discuss in this thread is how to help with the growth and spread of people trying to become better people, to help make the world better for all people everywhere, because they want to.

I think we do that naturally. Bringing Gods into it just in some sense disenfranchises us and leads to dogmatism and other undesirable side effects.