(July 13, 2018 at 12:22 pm)Chad32 Wrote:(July 13, 2018 at 12:12 pm)SteveII Wrote: More mischaracterizations. The "evangelical base" objects to redefining marriage. You edited out that part of my response. You can't possibly discuss this issue without understanding the other side's position. Again: can you understand their objection to that given their belief system?
I already described the basic objection to homosexuality. That's all theists really have. Gays don't make babies, and their book says it's wrong. There is not compelling objection.
So, does "not compelling objections" mean the beliefs are baseless? unreasoned? homophobic? bigoted? No. That's what your side of this issue does: mischaracterize and then bash the straw man with over-the-top labels. They somehow feel that if they understand the other side's position, then they have to admit something that they don't want to admit--namely that Christians beliefs are not inherently baseless, unreasonable, homophobic or bigoted.
Also, the opinion of Christians =/= Christian beliefs derived from systematic theology and the development of sound doctrine.