RE: Massacre of the Innocents
July 17, 2018 at 4:12 am
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2018 at 4:14 am by Fake Messiah.)
(July 16, 2018 at 2:02 am)Godscreated Wrote:(July 15, 2018 at 12:11 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Referring to the infants killed in lieu of baby Jesus as 'innocents' is heresy in that it denies their culpability in original sin.
Glad to have cleared that up for everyone.
Again your lack of understanding is atrocious. Your understanding of the concepts of biblical ideas is even more atrocious. The word innocent as applied to those male children would mean they did not deserve to die at the command of man, especially one that was as crazy and insecure as Herod. God punishes sin and man commits the sin as Herod did with those children.
GC
Actually, GC, his knowledge is on the spot. He said that Christians don't consider any baby to be innocent because of their culpability in original sin.
And there is nothing more that Christians have been thumping around than the idiotic concept of the Original Sin which, according to Augustine, is transmitted in the semen so is there from the moment of conception.
Or like Reverend Michael Horton who said and wrote stuff in his book "The Agony of Deceit" like
Christians believe in guilty babies; Catholics believe in guilty embryos. (Psalm 51:5)
The idea meant by the expression 'original sin' is that all humans are born sinners. There is no such thing as an innocent little baby. From conception, each of us merits the wrath and judgment of God (Psalm 51:5) ... Due to original sin, I am bent toward myself and I am charged with Adam's guilt. I can be sent to hell whether I have personally committed a sin or not.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"