RE: Massacre of the Innocents
July 18, 2018 at 1:38 am
(This post was last modified: July 18, 2018 at 1:45 am by Godscreated.)
(July 17, 2018 at 8:42 am)Chad32 Wrote:(July 17, 2018 at 1:19 am)Godscreated Wrote: Chad32I've never personally killed a child, or ordered someone else to do so. Now maybe I'm not running around the world trying to adopt as many children as I can, but I'm a limited Human with his own life to live. I'm still better than your god, though.
A simple answer will do here, no you are not. If you live in the United States you could have called your senator's office and gave your opinion.
GC
Even if you're right, and my inaction is causing harm, that's still better than your god personally going out and killing children because he's mad at their parents. Yes, I'm still a better person than your god. The difference between me and him is, he's supposed to be all knowing, powerful, and present. Meaning nothing bad happens that he doesn't condone.
I'll tell you one thing, though. Just the other day, my roommate and I saved a puppy that was being savaged by a neighbor. We could have left her there, and just called the neighbor a sinner, but we didn't. See, when something happens right next door, and I know I can do something about it, I will. I just don't call a senator in the hopes that he'll care what I say, or travel around feeding the hungry. That doesn't mean I'm a bad guy for that.
First off I did not say you were a bad guy and second I'm sure I said all people are guilty, that includes Christians who set around and ignore the situations. I'm glad you did something for the puppy, but if you did not report the person the real problem still exists and you rescued only one victim. The crime must be stopped at the source if change is going to happen, that's why I try and state the source of problems when I bring attention to a problem. It certainly doesn't take over 5 min. to call your senator or representative I know I have done so on more than one occasion and have always received a letter stating what my senators plans are, then all I have to do is check the way he votes on certain issues to see if he is being honest and deserves my vote the next term. You can help feed the needy in your community, even though you are not a believer the Christian organizations that do these things will be glad to have your help. To answer about God, you brought this up, He is all knowing and all powerful and did you ever consider that he knows what's best for a given situation regardless of whether man steps up to the plate and corrects what he has caused. Just stop arguing about who's wrong, God or man, you know it is us, we have caused this mess especially from your point of view.
GC
(July 17, 2018 at 5:27 am)mh.brewer Wrote:(July 17, 2018 at 1:46 am)Godscreated Wrote: What I said applies to you also, there is a good response to this story through science and yet no one here has the guts to tke a look and why because they are scared to death that it might just make sense and boy then what.
GC
Nope, I googled the science. None of it fits the fantasy story.
You seem to have a problem with the truth.
GC
(July 17, 2018 at 4:12 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(July 16, 2018 at 2:02 am)Godscreated Wrote: Again your lack of understanding is atrocious. Your understanding of the concepts of biblical ideas is even more atrocious. The word innocent as applied to those male children would mean they did not deserve to die at the command of man, especially one that was as crazy and insecure as Herod. God punishes sin and man commits the sin as Herod did with those children.
GC
Actually, GC, his knowledge is on the spot. He said that Christians don't consider any baby to be innocent because of their culpability in original sin.
I defined innocence as applied to this particular situation and it stands true. Original sin means that all mankind is capable of sin, if it meant that a baby was a sinner then Jesus would not have be sin free and thus no the perfect lamb to die for our sins. The Bible teaches Jesus was sinless and until someone can prove differently then it stands as is and thus babies are not sinners. You have much to learn before getting into this type of argument.
GC
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.