(July 19, 2018 at 2:55 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(July 19, 2018 at 12:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Huggy, I think "jesus" is a fictional character in a story which was invented in the 2d century.
Except no real historians think the same as you do...
I lean towards there having been a historical figure named Yeshua on whose teachings and life influenced the early Christian church. Those historians you're talking about largely don't buy any form or part of the nativity story, though. They largely agree that the baptism of Jesus by John the Baptist and his crucifixion ordered by Pilate actually happened; everything else is up for grabs. If you're going to cite the consensus of historians, you should stick to what they actually support.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.