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The Jeff Sessions "Religious Liberty Task Force"
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RE: The Jeff Sessions "Religious Liberty Task Force"
(August 3, 2018 at 10:19 am)The Industrial Atheist Wrote:
(August 3, 2018 at 9:54 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I believe that they are to guard religious liberty as per the constitution for everyone.   If you don't see a need for it, would seem to be another matter.

It's pork barrel spending. If it safeguarded against discrimination against minority groups, including Muslims, atheists, and agnostics, that would be fine.(even though those last two aren't religions)

Maybe you'll say the first two things I said aren't fair. But if you want to stop discrimination, you focus on the groups of which there is objective proof of discrimination.

From what I've seen of the actual policy points, it does protect everyone's religious liberties.   Do you condone descrimination, as long as it's not against who you feel is a minority?  And as you said, atheists and agnostics are not a religious organization, but they too may have religous beliefs which should be protected.

Perhaps you don't see a need. That is one thing.   But to make out that this is unconstitutional is just building a false narrative.  It seems to be built on little more than imagination and fear.  I think that this could become more necessary.  We are seeing some discrimination now.  And I think it is going to continue to grow.  Canada is refusing accreditation to a Christian law school, because they hold to Christian beliefs  There are some laws being proposed , which would make it a hate crime to teach the Bible..

(August 3, 2018 at 11:42 am)Joods Wrote:
(August 3, 2018 at 9:03 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: How do you think this goes against the constitution?  It’s goal seems to be safeguarding religious liberty protected by the constitution.

It will benefit one single religious group and you know it. The only reason why you aren't bitching about it is because it's your religion that's going to benefit.

Not according to the way it's written, and how it's being presented.....   How do you know that?

(August 3, 2018 at 11:36 am)Minimalist Wrote:
(August 3, 2018 at 9:03 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: How do you think this goes against the constitution?  It’s goal seems to be safeguarding religious liberty protected by the constitution.

I know your right to discriminate against people your bible tells you to hate is sacrosanct to you.  I think you are just a fucking bigot.

I think that you opinion has little to do with anything I have said or believe, but rather is a straw man built up for you to knock down.   It is built on fake news and lies.   But I suspect that doesn't matter to you.

In general, when discussing discrimination, I think that I was stricter than most of the people here.  They seemed more inconsistent between groups however, which may lead to being more sensitive with some groups than me.   I try to use consistent reasoning across the board.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: The Jeff Sessions "Religious Liberty Task Force" - by RoadRunner79 - August 3, 2018 at 12:56 pm

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