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Homophobia
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RE: Homophobia
(August 3, 2018 at 1:15 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(August 3, 2018 at 10:53 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Posts like this would have more credibility if people didnt constantly lump moronic extremists with more moderate Christians who vastly outnumber a vocal fringe.

Remember the whole Chick-fil-a thing from a few years back? Opposition to gay rights is a widespread phenomenon among contemporary evangelicals. Hordes of people came out and made their position known.

The controversy over homosexual marriage is largely a matter of public policy. Most Christians do indeed oppose it on largely religious grounds. Not all do. There are some secular grounds for opposition to gay marriage as-well. My own position is that marriage is a sacrament and that government should get out of the marriage business entirely; although, it is difficult to imagine how that could even happen given how useful recognition of lawful familial relationships are. A narrowly defined consensus clarifies the legal obligations of family members to each other. Once an institution, like marriage, becomes too elastically defined it ceases to be useful and muddles one’s ability to think clearly about roles and responsibilities unique to a marital relationship. In heated debates, I have called same-sex marriages “pretend marriages” which is definitely an insult but still accurately reflects my belief that same-sex marriages are essentially different from traditional marriages. The same reasons that justify gay marriage undermine any basis for recognizing the concept of marriage itself. The word becomes devoid of content. The issuance of gay-marriages is a massive social experiment. It could later prove to be no big deal and maybe even beneficial for society as a whole but I am very skeptical for now. I suspect that, in general, the further a family’s organization deviates from the traditional nuclear family the less stable and healthy it will be.

The boycotts of Chik-Fil-A were IMHO an attempt to vilify people for not conforming to right-think. The owners’s personal opinions did not affect their business practices. No gays were denied service. No anti-gay slogans were printed on paper cups. But the boycotters could not tolerate the very existence of people who are indeed tolerant, but simply do not enthusiastically affirm homosexual relationships. Many of the people who came out in support of Chik-Fil-A did so as a rebuke of the smear tactics used by Jacobean-style activists.

(August 3, 2018 at 1:15 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: My Dad goes to a run of the mill Baptist Church where …things like gay marriage and "the homosexual lifestyle" are disapproved of. Apparently because such things denounced in the Bible…But so is divorce. According to Matthew 5:32, not only is divorce forbidden by Jesus, but any woman who remarries commits adultery…But no Baptist in their right mind is going to beat that drum so fervently.

They are correct on both counts because all forms of sexual immorality are considered sinful. Preaching is very much topical. As homosexuality comes to the fore other issues get pushed back. In a post-Christian country, churches are playing whack-a-mole just to keep up with the growing acceptance of falsities and evils. I would say that while issues of gender identity garner the most attention because of their political nature, the biggest issue in the church right now is pornography.
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Messages In This Thread
Homophobia - by Fake Messiah - August 3, 2018 at 8:33 am
RE: Homophobia - by Neo-Scholastic - August 3, 2018 at 10:53 am
RE: Homophobia - by Nay_Sayer - August 3, 2018 at 10:57 am
RE: Homophobia - by Neo-Scholastic - August 3, 2018 at 12:34 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Angrboda - August 3, 2018 at 12:04 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Minimalist - August 3, 2018 at 12:42 pm
RE: Homophobia - by RoadRunner79 - August 3, 2018 at 1:26 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Minimalist - August 3, 2018 at 2:02 pm
RE: Homophobia - by vulcanlogician - August 3, 2018 at 1:15 pm
RE: Homophobia - by robvalue - August 3, 2018 at 10:57 am
RE: Homophobia - by Chad32 - August 3, 2018 at 11:42 am
RE: Homophobia - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2018 at 12:05 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Amarok - August 3, 2018 at 1:26 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Amarok - August 3, 2018 at 1:30 pm
RE: Homophobia - by FatAndFaithless - August 3, 2018 at 1:38 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Amarok - August 3, 2018 at 1:45 pm
RE: Homophobia - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2018 at 1:40 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Aroura - August 4, 2018 at 1:57 pm
RE: Homophobia - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2018 at 1:48 pm
RE: Homophobia - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2018 at 2:05 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Neo-Scholastic - August 3, 2018 at 3:13 pm
RE: Homophobia - by vulcanlogician - August 3, 2018 at 3:51 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Angrboda - August 3, 2018 at 6:31 pm
RE: Homophobia - by KevinM1 - August 3, 2018 at 10:17 pm
RE: Homophobia - by KevinM1 - August 6, 2018 at 2:32 pm
RE: Homophobia - by The Valkyrie - August 6, 2018 at 2:52 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Amarok - August 3, 2018 at 3:25 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Rhondazvous - August 3, 2018 at 3:45 pm
RE: Homophobia - by FatAndFaithless - August 3, 2018 at 3:48 pm
RE: Homophobia - by LadyForCamus - August 3, 2018 at 10:40 pm
RE: Homophobia - by brewer - August 4, 2018 at 8:54 pm
RE: Homophobia - by robvalue - August 3, 2018 at 3:58 pm
RE: Homophobia - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2018 at 4:05 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Fireball - August 3, 2018 at 6:49 pm
RE: Homophobia - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 3, 2018 at 7:06 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Mermaid - August 3, 2018 at 7:07 pm
RE: Homophobia - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 3, 2018 at 7:12 pm
RE: Homophobia - by KevinM1 - August 3, 2018 at 10:41 pm
RE: Homophobia - by robvalue - August 4, 2018 at 12:16 am
RE: Homophobia - by KevinM1 - August 4, 2018 at 1:48 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Abaddon_ire - August 4, 2018 at 2:38 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Graufreud - August 5, 2018 at 4:28 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Mermaid - August 5, 2018 at 4:33 pm
RE: Homophobia - by vulcanlogician - August 5, 2018 at 8:21 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Angrboda - August 5, 2018 at 9:27 pm
RE: Homophobia - by LadyForCamus - August 5, 2018 at 9:36 pm
RE: Homophobia - by The Valkyrie - August 5, 2018 at 9:08 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Amarok - August 5, 2018 at 9:10 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Fireball - August 5, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: Homophobia - by vorlon13 - August 5, 2018 at 9:52 pm
RE: Homophobia - by LadyForCamus - August 5, 2018 at 9:55 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Crossless2.0 - August 5, 2018 at 10:22 pm
RE: Homophobia - by The Valkyrie - August 5, 2018 at 11:01 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Crossless2.0 - August 5, 2018 at 11:14 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Fireball - August 5, 2018 at 11:01 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Aroura - August 7, 2018 at 4:42 am
RE: Homophobia - by Mermaid - August 7, 2018 at 5:47 pm
RE: Homophobia - by Angrboda - August 6, 2018 at 12:39 am
RE: Homophobia - by Graufreud - August 6, 2018 at 3:53 pm
RE: Homophobia - by JairCrawford - August 7, 2018 at 1:06 am
RE: Homophobia - by robvalue - August 7, 2018 at 1:12 am



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